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Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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...Except, perhaps, for Satoshi Nakamoto.

Satoshi isn't the greatest mathematician who never was. Satoshi is the greatest ancap who never was. It's either that, or he's Nick Szabo.

Australian New Car Assessment Program?

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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Nope; that's not an argument but a platitude.

This comment seems to be self-describing. Edit: ok, that may be a stretch, but I thought it was amusing because my comment could also be interpreted as describing itself.

I liked your comment!

To substantiate this comment, I’ll say that words describing themselves are known as autonyms. So you marked out an autonomous comment.

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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In the early days of HN, there was a super prolific user nickb https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=nickb I always thought it was an homage to Nicolas Bourbaki by pg and his friends who were using that account as a sock puppet. It was disputed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21825207 I guess we'll never know.

I wonder if there can be a public version of this by sharing passwords openly but in a twisted way. 1. Create an account. 2. To know the password, you visit a service that gives you the password. 3. The service changes the password immediately in 10 seconds before which you login. 4. You can now post stuff with the account but can't change the password allowing another user to chime in. Now the service basically need…

Instead of providing a temporary password, can't that service just give a user the session information that is sent to the server via cookies?

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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Fun fact about Nicolas Bourbaki in pop culture. A popular band, Twenty One Pilots, adopted the character of Nicolas Bourbaki in their concept album Trench. It's interesting since they commonly use the symbol Ø in their branding, which was introduced in mathematics by Nicolas Bourbaki to denote an empty set.

I came for the TOP reference and I was not disappointed.

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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post #36

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I wonder if there can be a public version of this by sharing passwords openly but in a twisted way. 1. Create an account. 2. To know the password, you visit a service that gives you the password. 3. The service changes the password immediately in 10 seconds before which you login. 4. You can now post stuff with the account but can't change the password allowing another user to chime in. Now the service basically need…

Instead of providing a temporary password, can't that service just give a user the session information that is sent to the server via cookies?

Well that is clever.

Well lets see if it works ... I created this user overlookedscrum with a weak enough password, but you don't know it so you can't reset it.

This is the cookie ~

key: user

value: overlookedscrum&DtTI0rbgf7YKKL0Xgy65I4cJFAi962sH

I tried it with two different browsers. It seems I can login freely, but can you ?

I'll say ping below.

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of providing a temporary password, can't that service just give a user the session information that is sent to the server via cookies?

Well that is clever. Well lets see if it works ... I created this user overlookedscrum with a weak enough password, but you don't know it so you can't reset it. This is the cookie ~ key: user value: overlookedscrum&DtTI0rbgf7YKKL0Xgy65I4cJFAi962sH I tried it with two different browsers. It seems I can login freely, but can you ? I'll say ping below.

ping.

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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What motivates a research mathematician to publish their work under a collective pseudonym? I can't imagine that something like that is good for one's career.

Most if not all of them were university teachers in France and former students of ENS (so they already were civil servants before their career even started). Their careers weren't really at stake.

Most of the members had very impressive career anyway. Obviously there are no Fields medalist amongst the founders - they were already too old but I think something like five of the later members got it (Schwartz, Serre, Grothendieck, Connes and Yoccoz). There are probably more if we could count the current members.

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of providing a temporary password, can't that service just give a user the session information that is sent to the server via cookies?

Well that is clever. Well lets see if it works ... I created this user overlookedscrum with a weak enough password, but you don't know it so you can't reset it. This is the cookie ~ key: user value: overlookedscrum&DtTI0rbgf7YKKL0Xgy65I4cJFAi962sH I tried it with two different browsers. It seems I can login freely, but can you ? I'll say ping below.

well people seem to have flagged my previous message but it does work from a different ip address as well in this message.

ping.

need to see if this method can work with other apps like twitter. is this a security hole ? not sure ....

this is basically the opposite of session hijacking because i'm just sharing my session and the password can't be changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_hijacking

> Some services make secondary checks against the identity of the user. For instance, a web server could check with each request made that the IP address of the user matched the one last used during that session. This does not prevent attacks by somebody who shares the same IP address, however, and could be frustrating for users whose IP address is liable to change during a browsing session.

would welcome anyone else to try.

Re: Nicolas Bourbaki: The greatest mathematician who never was (2019)

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of providing a temporary password, can't that service just give a user the session information that is sent to the server via cookies?

Well that is clever. Well lets see if it works ... I created this user overlookedscrum with a weak enough password, but you don't know it so you can't reset it. This is the cookie ~ key: user value: overlookedscrum&DtTI0rbgf7YKKL0Xgy65I4cJFAi962sH I tried it with two different browsers. It seems I can login freely, but can you ? I'll say ping below.

Works for me, from some airvpn IP
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