People are very slow to adapt to change. Even when there is an economic advantage to them. A failing of modern economic theory, assuming that every entity acts logically and in their best interest.
There is no way that providing electric charging at gas stations is a boost to all gas station's revenue. Consider extremely rural gas stations for example. (Yes, I am aware Germany is more dense than the US)
I mean, sure.
Is it bad that I don't really care?
I mean we've seen what happens when companies are left to their own accord. Sometimes an external pressure is required.
I hope to see one day that gas stations have become obsolete.
Seems like policy written by petrol car drivers and not well thought out. In the future electric vehicle world 95% of charging will be done at home, or in some facility near your rental building. Most EV drivers have no need to visit charging stations unless they're going on an extended road trip, and then we need a particular _kind_ of DC fast charging station. I mean... I have an EV and I could count on two hands t…
Me only time I go the super charger was when my home charger got hit by lightning- car was fine charger not so much...
Otherwise I might go once in awhile to fill up my wife’s car- she feels safer with the gas car ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also I put air in my tire at the gas station... that was neat because they upgrade to work with Apple Pay... I felt old trying to figure out where to insert my quarters
Seems like policy written by petrol car drivers and not well thought out. In the future electric vehicle world 95% of charging will be done at home, or in some facility near your rental building. Most EV drivers have no need to visit charging stations unless they're going on an extended road trip, and then we need a particular _kind_ of DC fast charging station. I mean... I have an EV and I could count on two hands t…
Most EV drivers have no need to visit charging stations [...] You do realise that we're talking about Germany here, don't you? You cannot apply US standards to a foreign country with 7x the population density and only a ~50% home ownership rate... The fact of the matter is, that half of German households cannot charge their vehicles at home, because they live in a rented apartment. In cities in particular (you know,…
By home I don’t think they mean having a garage with a charger. By home I think they mean wherever you park your car at night.
This begs a larger question of how petroleum mega corps are going to weather the transition to electric vehicles. Looking at BP, margins are really poor. They have $22 Billion in cash vs. $11 Billion operating expenses and $24 Billion in debt. There is time: in March, 2% of new vehicles sold in Europe were BEV. On the other hand, the total spend on electricity per mile driven is 1/3 that of petrol. That means a compl…
Big Oil has been rigging the finances for eighty years (pun). Seriously, "cash" is close to Hollywood accounting, which is to say, declare what you must in order to have access to bank loans in your Federal jurisdiction, hide the rest in the crooked jurisdiction of your choice.
Yes, exactly. When gasoline powered vehicles were rolled out, we didn't start with a coast-to-coast network of gas stations, but we did have sufficient farmers willing to sell gas to make it mostly work. This could prove the same benefit for electrics - "some plug somewhere" is enough to eliminate most range problems for long trips, and once it's there...
"Some plug somewhere"... A 120V plug functions... But you will need to come up with something to do for the next 12-24 hours.
In europe we are blessed with 240v" so it will only take you all day!
Most EV drivers have no need to visit charging stations [...] You do realise that we're talking about Germany here, don't you? You cannot apply US standards to a foreign country with 7x the population density and only a ~50% home ownership rate... The fact of the matter is, that half of German households cannot charge their vehicles at home, because they live in a rented apartment. In cities in particular (you know,…
By home I don’t think they mean having a garage with a charger. By home I think they mean wherever you park your car at night.
It would make much more sense for Germany to pay for (or mandate) the installation of electric car chargers at supermarkets and at strategic parking spots in cities. Petrol stations will cease to exist, along with all those mandated chargers. > petrol stations in Australia have replaced the corner shops Are petrol stations somehow responsible for consumer habits? What about sky-high residential realestate prices that…
7/11 exists in WA and the eastern states so it might not be franchise fees. In Adelaide, OTR is a dominant brand, putting a petrol station in a corner location along with quick essentials, coffee, fast food, etc. Yes, of course real estate costs and subsequently rent make small business difficult here. City chargers with a time limit would make sense also. I've seen them in various places here and abroad. One advanta…
Superchargers charge idle fees if you leave the car there for more than 5 minutes after charging finishes.
Seems like policy written by petrol car drivers and not well thought out. In the future electric vehicle world 95% of charging will be done at home, or in some facility near your rental building. Most EV drivers have no need to visit charging stations unless they're going on an extended road trip, and then we need a particular _kind_ of DC fast charging station. I mean... I have an EV and I could count on two hands t…
Most EV drivers have no need to visit charging stations [...] You do realise that we're talking about Germany here, don't you? You cannot apply US standards to a foreign country with 7x the population density and only a ~50% home ownership rate... The fact of the matter is, that half of German households cannot charge their vehicles at home, because they live in a rented apartment. In cities in particular (you know,…
You are totally correct, yet OP's point is still reasonable - this was written from the perspective of a petrol-car driver; moreover, it's a missed opportunity to think differently. Petrol stations require big tanks underground to store the petrol; we don't have pipelines through the city carrying petrol. On the other hand, we do have a massive network of wires carrying electricity. EV charging can so easily be distributed, that there is simply no need for 'petrol stations.' Put charging spots directly on the street and other parking places, with an app/API to show availability. Monitor demand, and add more in hotspots.
Most EV drivers have no need to visit charging stations [...] You do realise that we're talking about Germany here, don't you? You cannot apply US standards to a foreign country with 7x the population density and only a ~50% home ownership rate... The fact of the matter is, that half of German households cannot charge their vehicles at home, because they live in a rented apartment. In cities in particular (you know,…
By home I don’t think they mean having a garage with a charger. By home I think they mean wherever you park your car at night.
This seems a bit unfair/cruel considering electric cars will probably decimate petrol stations. Most people will charge at home, or when parked at their destination (like work). Edit: Curious to know why this comment is unpopular?
Those petrol stations are going to cop it eventually anyway. This just encourages them to hang a cable out the window to provide some incentive for EV owners caught short. In preparation for the end of pumping gas as we know it, petrol stations in Australia have replaced the corner shops, delicatessens, etc. We don't have a single 7/11 in South Australia.
To your point, 7/11 actually bought Mobil's retail petrol franchise business so now most of the 7/11s you see in the eastern states are 7/11 branded petrol stations (really convenience stores with petrol as a loss-leader to bring you in the door).