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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by tomger »

blickentwapft wrote: post #14
ordinaryradical wrote: post #8

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

It’s a highly privileged position to be in to make a personal stand and leave your $250,000 job for another $250,000 job. Not judging this way or that, just saying.

“Just saying” is judging. The anxiety created by his move is real. At the same time we can accept that other people are in a worse financial situation.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by kinkrtyavimoodh »

simion314 wrote: post #59
sktrdie wrote: post #9

Presidents have all kinds of privileges that others don’t. Why should their privilege on social-media be diminished? To me the problem is not the platform but the fact that they have such exceptional privilege to begin with. What I don't understand is how you can be Facebook employee and also think the platform is the problem - lots of these especially in the React community [1]. If you believe Facebook is the proble…

>Why should their privilege on social-media be diminished? Why should a president, prime minister or government/parliament member should have "privilege" ? should they be allowed to swear or show their naked ass on public TV because they are special? The rules should apply equal to all citizens no exceptions for the ones in power. IMO the algorithm that decides if a post should be banned or not should not have as inp…

When all citizens have the button to nuke the whole world, we can make arguments about equality.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

vmception wrote: post #294
krzyk wrote: post #282

So he doesn't believe that one should be able to protect their property? If looting is not the one that should be discouraged with shots, then what about rape? If that also not, then where it starts? How do you stop looters? Asking nicely? Mob has its own personality and it doesn't have conscious. I don't like current US president (BTW I'm not US citizen, nor do I live there), but that quote wasn't the one people sho…

yeah the property is unfortunate, but why are police killing citizens with little accountability? thats the focus here, don't get it reversed

When you don't prevent looting the looters will be confronted by cops and they will then choose to take the cops life or go to jail. This is what happened to David Dorn.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by 0-_-0 »

swagonomixxx wrote: post #150
ogre_codes wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that simple or easy. Many of these guys are giving up tends of thousands of dollars in benefits (stock options/ bonuses). Also, the assumption that everyone with a good paying job at Facebook is going to be able to quickly pick up a comparable job in a short amount of time is a huge stretch. Ultimately developers leaving and people refusing to work for Facebook, drive up Facebook's costs and speaks to their…

It's not really a huge stretch, his post on LinkedIn [0] has 200K+ reactions, and it's an understatement to say he'll have no trouble _at all_ getting a job within a few weeks. [0]: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/timothy-j-aveni_blacklivesmat...

This might be overly cynical, but it might be possible that he was already thinking about leaving his job, and now found an excuse to do it in a way that potentially gets him more LinkedIn profile views and thus a better next job (he does end his message with advertising himself)

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by hn_1234 »

I read this word " privilege" more in the comments. I just want to say to all used it , leaving a job with a public stunt from a high paying job is never an easy decision for anyone. We all love money. But when someone chose to stand up for what they thought is right, is a big thing. I believe we should honor and respect that. Being dismissive or saying he/she is privileged to make a decision is nothing but dishonor.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by M2Ys4U »

sparkling wrote: post #229
yogthos wrote: post #167

Anybody working for Facebook is knowingly and willingly helping promote fascism. These people have some of the best job options out there, and they're actively choosing to work for a company that's actively harmful to society.

Facebook is promoting "facism" for not deleting Trump? lol

Facebook was also complicit in the genocide of the Rohingya minority in Myanmar

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by FemmeAndroid »

nightski wrote: post #126

I respect his decision. But I for one do not want our president, no matter who she or he is to be censored. I want to know exactly what they are saying and when. That includes any government official for that matter because it directly affects my voting decisions and actions.

So if you're against censoring any government official, was Facebook wrong to remove posts from Myanmar's military leaders inciting a genocide?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/world/asia/myanmar-genoci...

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by pc86 »

vmception wrote: post #294
krzyk wrote: post #282

So he doesn't believe that one should be able to protect their property? If looting is not the one that should be discouraged with shots, then what about rape? If that also not, then where it starts? How do you stop looters? Asking nicely? Mob has its own personality and it doesn't have conscious. I don't like current US president (BTW I'm not US citizen, nor do I live there), but that quote wasn't the one people sho…

yeah the property is unfortunate, but why are police killing citizens with little accountability? thats the focus here, don't get it reversed

Luckily most of us have the ability to focus on as many as two things simultaneously. You can be in favor of protesting in general, these protests specifically, and still have a problem with seemingly random destruction of innocent people's property. I hate whataboutism as much as anyone, but just as insidious is the same mental failing on the other side of the spectrum where you're "not allowed" to look at anything other than whatever "the focus" is.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by joecasson »

at_a_remove wrote: post #242
mchusma wrote: post #49

I don't understand why doesn't Facebook just: -Allow all posts -Allow users to customize what they want to see (e.g. "dont show me posts that glorify violence" or "only allow covid posts that match WHO guidelines" or "allow exceptions from political figures or of historical significance") and allow users to ban hide posts that are found untruthful by third parties (snopes, etc). To me effectively everyone wins. Faceb…

Ah, that word "just." Whenever I see "just" in some kind of kind of technical demand in the first line, I immediately know that there's a lot of stuff to unpack. Here, you have requested something fairly close to a general AI which understands both written language, images, and even more fun, images of language. Cartoon violence right on down to "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" And will quoting Henry II…

Couldn't agree more. Also the implication that users will manage or update settings to their preferences is incredible in its own right.

So, let's just do it.

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Post by jasonlotito »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #35
ordinaryradical wrote: post #8

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

I just don't agree that severing professional ties over political disputes is admirable. For society to function, people need to be willing to work with others whose politics they find distasteful.

It wasn't over a political dispute though. It was over the CEO effectively lying with regard to a red line that was crossed.

The straw that broke the camels back.

> For society to function, people need to be willing to work with others whose politics they find distasteful.

And how are we supposed to work with people that outright lie? Who are dishonest. Who crosses a red line with that lie? Are we supposed to shrug and accept it? Would you accept people lying in a professional environment?

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