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iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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They absolutely should care. I’m not adding you to a group text if you have an android. Life is too short to read green text bubbles.

Why don't you use WhatsApp?

I did for a while, especially to keep in touch with overseas friends, but I've been Facebook-free for a few years now and that meant deleting WhatsApp as well.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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> Why would you download an app for the basic functionality of a phone? Having a blue circle is not the basic functionality of texting. People here are talking about fancy facetime stuff, like group names, and reactions.

Those are all part of iMessage.

Thank you for making my point. iMessage is not texting. I'm responding to this.

"Why would you download an app for the basic functionality of a phone? Texting is an integral part of phones and I haven't met a person in the US without unlimited texting in years."

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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High school senior here; I can second the prevalence of this experience starting in middle school. Oh and texting an i phone user sucks because those reactions come through like: Loved "blah blah blah" Please when texting us android plebians don't use those reaction things.

I actually like the "so and so Loved blah", because otherwise it would be really easy for non-iphone users to not know that someone actually acknowledged their message.

I actually think just changing the content of the message could make this so much better. Change:

> Liked "XXX"

to

> (John Smith Liked "XXX")

Including the parenthesis. Make it clear that it's not a real, typed message from the person.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#394
So, I may be missing something, but...

You can get imessage for windows with way less effort and full functionality. Just have a VNC window to a mac with imessage on it. There you go, every functionality of imessage on windows. All it requires is a mac mini.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#395
post #394

So, I may be missing something, but... You can get imessage for windows with way less effort and full functionality. Just have a VNC window to a mac with imessage on it. There you go, every functionality of imessage on windows. All it requires is a mac mini.

That's not iMessage for Windows.

"You can get Adobe Photoshop for Linux, just run a Windows machine and use RDP to connect to it. All it requires is another machine entirely and for you to be on the same network."

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#396
> For example, hackintosh PCs that act identical to genuine Mac hardware can use all macOS features except iMessage, which has been locked – so far as we can tell – to only allow network activation on devices that have “blessed” NICs that officially shipped with Apple hardware.

This isn't true! The computer I'm typing on right now can send and receive iMessages just fine, and I'm not using a donor MLB. You just need to get all of various parameters right, so Apple's servers are presented with logical information.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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People do absolutely use SMS.

In the US, sure. In the rest of the world SMS is solely for human-machine communication - mostly one-time login codes.

Can confirm. The only SMS I ever receive is from bots (mostly OTP codes). I can't remember the last time I received an SMS from a human.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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In Europe: WhatsApp, no one uses SMS anymore because WhatsApp started getting popular when people still had to pay for each SMS sent. I currently live in South America, same story: Nobody uses iMessage, everybody is on WhatsApp. Even businesses prefer WhatsApp over phone calls. The biggest difference between Whatsapp users in Europe and South America that I observed has to be the crazy amount of people using voice me…

It is asynchronous communication, like emails, the recipient can listen to it when they are available, but you don't need both to be available in the same time.

Yes, but here voice messages are used for synchronous communication.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#399

Ok, so a comment on the actual content of the article rather than iMessage in general: I do the kinds of things that the author describes in the article (digging into private implementations of things) and I while I believe all of iMessage is a bit obfuscatory it's not nearly as bad as the author has described it. Really, it's one of the places where Hanlon's razor actually applies: the AppleScript bridge sucks becau…

Two of my main gripes with iMessage is the fact that if you scroll back up to read the past it becomes progressively slower and slower to scroll and each time the lag to get a new “page” of history takes longer. The other gripe is search being almost completely useless. Search for say “apples” and it just lists the entire conversation instead of relevant messages containing apples. And then you are left scrolling up endlessly to find said message with the aforementioned slowdown bug being front and center.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

#400

Ok, so a comment on the actual content of the article rather than iMessage in general: I do the kinds of things that the author describes in the article (digging into private implementations of things) and I while I believe all of iMessage is a bit obfuscatory it's not nearly as bad as the author has described it. Really, it's one of the places where Hanlon's razor actually applies: the AppleScript bridge sucks becau…

> as well as its fairly strange usage of a web view (actually the long-deprecated one…) for the main content

iMessage (at least on iOS) allows for arbitrary plugins to generate content for it, right? I presume it does that by having the plugin emit a web-component-like bit of HTML+CSS+JS, that is then embedded into the conversation for all participants, and which can be further rehydrated after initial rendering by just-in-time zero-installing the relevant iMessage plugin on recipient hosts.

(For anyone who is wondering why this would be necessary just to display some stickers: there are other kinds of iMessage plugins, e.g. games you can play inside the iMessage window, and not just the "you say something, IRC bot says something" kind of games, but full Canvas kind of games.)

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