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iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by carlyfan »

bestnameever wrote: post #280
carlyfan wrote: post #238

For anyone who is interested in making an iMessage proxy and has time to spend: There is a legitimate way to interact with the iMessage system with a standard protocol. It requires you to have a host iPhone (no jailbreaking needed). What you need to have is a Bluetooth adapter with MAP (Message Access Profile) support. Your iPhone will treat all messages from the MAP protocol as if they are from the Messages app. Thi…

This would be extremely useful. I can imagine the only reason why it doesn't exist yet is because few people were aware of this. Thanks for sharing.

Haha, I don’t know who else besides me who knew about this. I just happened to discover it the other day... night... month ;-) HN is the first platform that I shared this discovery with.

I figured that the ideas are free, the important part is the execution. I hope I didn’t accidentally open the Pandora’s box for the spammers and such. My thought is that programmatically sending iMessages is already doable just needs a lot of mucking around. This just makes it much more convenient.

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Post by 0-_-0 »

nxc18 wrote: post #224
VMisTheWay wrote: post #109

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If you have ever talked to an iPhone user, you will know performance, features, and quality are the last things on their mind. The phone must be pretty and have the Apple logo on it. They might repeat the marketing about privacy and security, but if the person actually cared about either, you'd never use Apple products.

Can you name a single android phone that is superior in performance with last year’s iPhone? Can you name an android phone that will be stable and up-to-date 5 years after it was released?

> Can you name an android phone that will be stable and up-to-date 5 years after it was released?

Any that can be rooted

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Post by scatters »

saagarjha wrote: post #209
harpratap wrote: post #195

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You can use Whatsapp or other IMs though, which is what the rest of the world is doing. No one really uses SMS anymore

People do absolutely use SMS.

In the US, sure. In the rest of the world SMS is solely for human-machine communication - mostly one-time login codes.

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Post by tpush »

sgt wrote: post #257
est31 wrote: post #11

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iMessage motivates people to people buy iPhones instead of Android when everyone else in a social circle has it. Why should Apple give up on that? What will Apple gain from making it ubiquitous? It would in fact disappoint many people as now they can't use their phone to distance themselves from the people who don't have that blue circle. Note that I'm arguing from Apple's perspective here. From my own I believe they…

iMessage is ABSOLUTELY brilliant if your family and friends are all on iPhones, which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries. Regardless whether you agree with that, it is super practical for me and my family. It also means we don't have run other chat software like WhatsApp. The whole experience is just so seamless and well integrated across your devices. Everything from regular messages, voiceno…

> [...] which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries.

It's really not, at least in continental Europe. Here in Germany Android's like 70% of the market and nobody uses iMessage or FaceTime.

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Post by sgt »

tpush wrote: post #314
sgt wrote: post #257

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iMessage is ABSOLUTELY brilliant if your family and friends are all on iPhones, which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries. Regardless whether you agree with that, it is super practical for me and my family. It also means we don't have run other chat software like WhatsApp. The whole experience is just so seamless and well integrated across your devices. Everything from regular messages, voiceno…

> [...] which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries. It's really not, at least in continental Europe. Here in Germany Android's like 70% of the market and nobody uses iMessage or FaceTime.

Norway is my primary point of reference in this regard.

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Post by acqq »

tpush wrote: post #314
sgt wrote: post #257

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iMessage is ABSOLUTELY brilliant if your family and friends are all on iPhones, which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries. Regardless whether you agree with that, it is super practical for me and my family. It also means we don't have run other chat software like WhatsApp. The whole experience is just so seamless and well integrated across your devices. Everything from regular messages, voiceno…

> [...] which I'm pretty sure is fairly common in most Western countries. It's really not, at least in continental Europe. Here in Germany Android's like 70% of the market and nobody uses iMessage or FaceTime.

Even when it's not majority, I agree with sgt that initially the experience was much, much better than with other apps, especially for the older people in my family.

It degraded a bit, however, with the time. Adding features is not to the benefit of the less young, whereas young tolerate UI getting more complex and less intuitive.

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Post by Yizahi »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #212
013a wrote: post #101

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People definitely do. The worst part is, an excellent upgrade exists. The RCS experience between Android users is pretty much as good as iMessage. Apple could support this; not to replace iMessage, but to upgrade SMS conversations. My tech-illiterate mom's Galaxy S negative 12 has it. Of my contacts, every single Android user I text (maybe a dozen) has RCS. Its standard. When I put my iPhone XS and my S20 Plus side-b…

>a sonic sub-pixel fingerprint reader Just hope nobody who steals your phone puts a screen protector on it. https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/10127908/samsung-galaxy-s10-sc...

Under display scanner on Samsungs is so horribly bad that I'm not worried about it at all :) . I often can't unlock my S10+ in five tries after which it forces me to enter pin. And S10+ cost 1000$ on release last year. I don't use any screen protectors and I've rescanned fingers after Samsung rolled out "fixes" for the scanner. It's junk.

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Post by partyboat1586 »

elliekelly wrote: post #100
kelnos wrote: post #40

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> iMessage motivates people to people buy iPhones instead of Android Why, though? Does your average iPhone user actually care if the bubbles they see in their chats are blue or green? If so, why? Note that I'm talking about average users. Sure, there are likely a bunch of privacy-conscious users who believe in Apple's commitment to security and privacy and prefer iMessage on those grounds. But otherwise, why? > It wo…

They absolutely should care. I’m not adding you to a group text if you have an android. Life is too short to read green text bubbles.

Why don't you use WhatsApp?

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Post by lorenzhs »

nxc18 wrote: post #220
sandeeps_ wrote: post #69

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Looks like you have never used Whatsapp!

WhatsApp sucks. Message delivery/notifications are unreliable, the interface is hideous, it lacks the Tapback/reaction feature which is heavily used in iMessage, and it dumps pics from group chats into your photo library automatically, as if you took them yourself. Idiot posts racist meme to a group chat? It lives in your photos library forever until you notice and manually delete. Notifications being sporadically (a…

1. Settings → Chats → Disable "Save to Camera Roll", done.

2. WhatsApp has rock-solid message delivery, otherwise it wouldn't have 2 billion users (https://blog.whatsapp.com/two-billion-users-connecting-the-w...). It's the default messaging app in most of the world. You don't become that popular with unreliable message delivery.

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

cannaceo wrote: post #171
est31 wrote: post #11

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iMessage motivates people to people buy iPhones instead of Android when everyone else in a social circle has it. Why should Apple give up on that? What will Apple gain from making it ubiquitous? It would in fact disappoint many people as now they can't use their phone to distance themselves from the people who don't have that blue circle. Note that I'm arguing from Apple's perspective here. From my own I believe they…

I have an iPhone. I have a MacBook. I have AirPods. I have the watch. I use a PC for work and am considering moving away from the iPhone because I miss texting on my desktop. They could bind a windows iMessage install to your iPhone the same way Signal/whatsapp do.

They could bind a windows iMessage install to your iPhone the same way Signal/whatsapp do.

Or make it part of an iCloud subscription.

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