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Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by riffic » Wed, Jun 03, 2020, 8:43 PM UTC

devilmoon wrote: post #121

riffic wrote: post #86

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It's not about tracking locations, it's about tracking social connections. I'm a skeptic it won't see abuses.

How can it track social connections when the codes are anonymous by default and can be deanonymized only with an OTP code you generate yourself?

Are networks of social connections a characteristic that can be fingerprinted just like many other identifying traits (gait detection, location and movement fingerprinting, keystroke forencics, stylometry and linguistic fingerprinting, patterns of timestamps, et cetera)?

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by jlokier » Wed, Jun 03, 2020, 10:23 PM UTC

stormdennis wrote: post #144

jlokier wrote: post #136

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> Black and Hispanic police are as likely or more likely to kill people of color as white officers If that's true, it suggests the racism problem is more serious than we thought; that police of all colors may be endemically racist as a group; that it's not just mainly white police. That said, we don't see black-on-black murders of innocent people so much. This might be due the symbolism of white-on-black murders in b…

>That said, we don't see black-on-black murders of innocent people so much. Really? The murder rate inside the black community is massively higher than within any other community in America. Also black people murder more white people than vice versa. If you take account of the different community sizes the disparity becomes even more extreme. If this is coming as news to you I don't know where you've been all your li…

Sorry, I mis-wrote that due to an editing mistake, and it's too late to edit the comment now.

What I meant to write was we don't see black-on-black police murders of innocent people hitting the big news and causing mass demonstations so much.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL » Wed, Jun 03, 2020, 10:43 PM UTC

I'm surprised and pleased to see this app being developed properly.

When I was working in Italy, the state of software development was terrible. It looks like now there are great developers too.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by fomine3 » Wed, Jun 03, 2020, 11:02 PM UTC

glandium wrote: post #124

fomine3 wrote: post #77

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Japan: An open source community built a contact tracing app but the government doesn't adopt the app and building different app. I expect the app won't be open sourced. https://github.com/mamori-i-japan/mamori-i-japan-ios

It's not entirely clear what's going to happen with the source of that governmental app, but at least, it's mentioned in https://cio.go.jp/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/tech... (last page)

Oh, I haven't read the sentence. thanks.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by artursapek » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 4:58 AM UTC

Freak_NL wrote: post #122

raziel2p wrote: post #14

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source on the looting part?

None. Its complete and utter bullshit. Any looting beyond someone pilfering a traffic cone would be all over the national news here in the Netherlands.

My bad, I saw things on fire in the streets and assumed looting. You're correct that doesn't appear to be happening this time.

Re: The Italian Covid contact-tracing app is now developed in open source

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Post by stormdennis » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 6:33 AM UTC

jlokier wrote: post #152

stormdennis wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That said, we don't see black-on-black murders of innocent people so much. Really? The murder rate inside the black community is massively higher than within any other community in America. Also black people murder more white people than vice versa. If you take account of the different community sizes the disparity becomes even more extreme. If this is coming as news to you I don't know where you've been all your li…

Sorry, I mis-wrote that due to an editing mistake, and it's too late to edit the comment now. What I meant to write was we don't see black-on-black police murders of innocent people hitting the big news and causing mass demonstations so much.

You're right we don't see them hitting the news and causing mass demonstrations. We also never have mass demonstrations when a black person kills a white person. And yet interestingly, far more white people are killed by black people than vice versa.