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The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

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Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

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$180K per car to manufacture is really quite expensive!

How did they manage to make it so expensive per car?!

Making a car cheap is the hard part. You have so many less known "luxury" manufacturers who will build cars on demand for tons of money. The scaling and cost management is the hard part.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#82
The video that says "See the Dyson car on the road" is so strangely fake.

So you're driving down 6th ave away from the Madison Square Garden sign promoting the Knicks? There's not going to be a double yellow line because it's a one way street. Perfectly smooth road in Manhattan? Nope.

Here's what the area really looks like: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7487638,-73.9922756,3a,75y,3...

Credit to whomever thought adding "Modells" would make it look more locally authentic though.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#83
Dyson seems like a company/brand mired in being clever vs. actually creating anything of practical utility. We have a dyson stick vacuum thing that was ~$300 and it can't even pick up cheerios. The airblade hand dryer supposedly spreads something like 60x more germs than regular dryers and over 1000x more than regular warm air hand dryers.

This car thing apparently didn't work out.

$400 hair dryer?

$1,700 dyson roomba competitor?

I guess every brand has its fans but this is one I just don't get. I'll never purchase another dyson product after being bamboozled with that damn vacuum.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#85
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A good example of intelligent appliances would be like my Samsung washing machine... It had an error, so I called their support line. They asked me to hold down two buttons simultaneously, then put my phone near the door. It let out a 10s or so digital song, the kind that modems did in the 90s - that gave them an entire diagnostic, age, model etc, and they sent someone around as they knew I couldn't fix it. Pretty am…

A counter example of an unintelligent washing machine: My Whirlpool emitted a diagnostic puddle of water underneath it. I Googled the seal, ordered it from an independent supplier, and installed it myself. It is now on its 25th year of use with us, and cost less than $400 when new.

I'm imagining your Whirlpool singing a happy diagnostic song while it wees on your floor

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#86
There is an idea ... that driver-critical, frequently used information (like speed, temps, trip odometer, etc.) can be displayed, offset, in the center of the car.

You can see this "idea" deployed in the Tesla model 3.

This is a clownish, absurd idea that, were it not for actual, extant production examples would be mistaken for parody ... they would be assumed to be in jest.

If you are a designer and you think there is any positive value in this design, find a new job: you are a clown.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#87

Vehicles are weird. I feel like we try to jam all use cases into one, when I really need three different things: 1/ To go to work and back. Same route everyday. Not very long. Currently use a bicycle, but I’ve used mass transit for these very common in-out routes in the past. 2/ Small local journeys. I can’t collect 6kg of wheat from the local farm with a bike or a bus. Taxi is viable if I could get them to wait 20 m…

How about a battery electric cargo bicycle? Like a Tern GSD ($$$) or Radwagon ($)? The tern gsd can carry 180 kg of cargo and has detachable batteries, so that at least gives you the option of bringing extra batteries for long range. Or haul people or wheat.

I'm a huge fan of the concept of super-lightweight EVs. I still think something like the ELF [https://organictransit.com/] is one of the best ideas in this space, and I hope someone takes over the brand or concept and figures out how to market it better.

This needs robust offerings for both lower-end and higher-end models, but it's hard to say which should be initially focused on these days. My instinct is to go for the low end & maximize volume. There has to be a sweet spot between usefulness and affordability. As has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, designing for modular upgrades would probably help.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#88

Strange there's no mention of the solid-state batteries, that may have given it an edge over competition.

I was hoping on some news on those, too. Only this sentence on the page that's interesting. Quote: The aluminium battery pack casing was flexible in design to allow for a variety of possible sizes and types of battery cell solution to be fitted throughout the life of the vehicle platform without the need for any significant re-engineering.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#89

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Good vacuums? Where? Reliability issues and the plastic chassis broke not long after purchase. I won't pay the premium again, that's for sure.

I agree, have you ever seen a cleaning company use a Dyson vacuum cleaner? If they were the best and most reliable then they would all be using them.

I've seen Disney use the stick vacuums at Disney World hotels.

Re: The Dyson Battery Electric Vehicle

#90
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> Electric cars are considerably more expensive to make and manufacturers are making big losses on the sale of each car. This is rather disingenuous. The Model 3 was one of the most popular new cars sold in the UK last year, Tesla isn’t losing money on those sales. You can’t do a market analysis that ignores the main competitor. If I had to hazard a guess, the real reason James Dyson pulled the plug is a) EV developm…

Tesla has certainly lost money on every sale to date when you consider what they have spent designing the cars and creating the capacity to mass produce them. They may now have unit costs that will allow them to eventually recoup that money and make a profit, but that doesn't just mean you can disregard all the initial capital.

Then there is also Elon's bonus, which is actually bigger than all of the profit Tesla has ever made during its entire existence.

But remember folks, we love Elon. That's not evil capitalism or greed, it's Elon. He launches rockets! That's the model for model CEOs to follow. We need more Elons!

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