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Re: Firefox 77

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Post by kleiba »

Normille wrote: post #105
kleiba wrote: post #29

The biggest item on my wish-list is still a user-option to restore the previous (sensible) click behavior for the address bar: one click places the cursor, double click selects (all, but if I need to triple click for that it would be fine, too). Sadly, this wish will probably not come true any time soon... or ever.

CMD+L [I'm on a mac, adapt as appropriate for your particular platform] places the cursor in the address bar and selects all the text. Then, if needs be, hit left arrow to move cursor to start of URL and deselect text. Hit right arrow to move to end of URL and deselect text. Seems to be a standard keyboard shortcut across browsers. Works for me in Firefox, Yandex and Opera.

Thanks, I'm talking about the mouse, though. I do use these keyboard shortcuts all the time but that is sort of orthogonal to the changed click behavior -- which is unlike for any other text field on my system.

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by DangerousPie »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #119
DangerousPie wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect a lot of this is about making it easier to use with touch input. Which doesn't mean I like it, but I can understand why they're doing it.

How does this benefit touch input? It expands after clicking—the tap target hasn't changed.

I was mostly thinking about the amount of whitespace between list items. Makes it easier to hit the right one.

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by kleiba »

aimor wrote: post #74
kleiba wrote: post #29

The biggest item on my wish-list is still a user-option to restore the previous (sensible) click behavior for the address bar: one click places the cursor, double click selects (all, but if I need to triple click for that it would be fine, too). Sadly, this wish will probably not come true any time soon... or ever.

What is the current behavior? For me it is: single click: select all double click: select word single click after selecting something: place cursor

That's the current one here, too.

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by kleiba »

Tomte wrote: post #36
kleiba wrote: post #29

The biggest item on my wish-list is still a user-option to restore the previous (sensible) click behavior for the address bar: one click places the cursor, double click selects (all, but if I need to triple click for that it would be fine, too). Sadly, this wish will probably not come true any time soon... or ever.

No, we're not getting it back. I filed a bug, thinking this was an inadvertant side-effect of the new address bar, but it was closed WONTFIX. The old user setting was never really supposed to be used on Windows, just as a workaround for something I don't remember, and the use case is invalid. I still wish I'd get that distinction between single click and double click back.

Yeah, I was aware of that bug report (thanks for filing it). The rationale given is ridiculous, though - anywhere else on my system if I click on a text field, the cursor gets placed where I click and nothing gets selected.

It's hard for me to imagine what use case the current behavior is optimized for.

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by coronadisaster »

jiehong wrote: post #4
Tomte wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I really want to be the first one to post this, even if nothing has been released, yet". Happens all the time on HN, and our defense is a little link above.

I got the update on Archlinux, as it's released, but I was surprised to find an empty release note…

why didn't you post the arch package link then?

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by throwaway_pdp09 »

To all who aren't happy with the way FX is going, may I suggest palemoon. I've been using it a long while and it's just straighforwardly good. http://www.palemoon.org/

Perhaps the easiest way of letting Mozilla know how you feel is by helping them lose market share to another.

PM is a good browser. Not affiliated, it just works for me.

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

toper-centage wrote: post #116
DangerousPie wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After having lived with this turned on for about a month I am happy to report that it doesn't really bother me at all any more now. In the first week or two it just seemed pointless to me, but over time I actually started using the thing more and more. It's definitely not a massive improvement and I'm not sure if I'd have added it if I had had the choice but it may be worth just giving it a chance.

There will always be people who swear they never get used to it. Truth is, our brains are experts at getting used to things. Specially little style tweaks. I don't love this one, but it honestly took me a day or two to stop caring.

And that doesn't mean the change is good! Our brains also get used to bad smells, after we've been around them for long enough. But newcomers will notice, and the air will still seem fresher when we step outside.

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by wojciechpolak »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #54

And now my address bar expands on click, because browser.urlbar.update1 was removed from about:config. I knew this day was coming, but I'm still not happy it's here. The movement is distracting, and the alignment of the bar's expanded state is terrible. There's a reason most graphic design follows a grid system. We need a way to turn this off. I realize the old about:config flag was tied to a legacy code pathway, but…

Enough is enough. I just downgraded to 76.0.1 and it should be good enough for a long time. Here is what I did on MacOS:

  1) Uninstall Firefox
  2) Install v76.0.1: brew cask install https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/homebrew-cask/40b6b69674d6a068105059668163476f21d94258/Casks/firefox.rb
  3) /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox --allow-downgrade
  4) Quickly disable auto update in Preferences
  5) Be happy with the old bar ;)
Now, v77 is already "Install Pending" in "Show Update History", but it can be ignored. But still, does anyone know how to remove it being pending?

Re: Firefox 77

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

wojciechpolak wrote: post #129
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #54

And now my address bar expands on click, because browser.urlbar.update1 was removed from about:config. I knew this day was coming, but I'm still not happy it's here. The movement is distracting, and the alignment of the bar's expanded state is terrible. There's a reason most graphic design follows a grid system. We need a way to turn this off. I realize the old about:config flag was tied to a legacy code pathway, but…

Enough is enough. I just downgraded to 76.0.1 and it should be good enough for a long time. Here is what I did on MacOS: 1) Uninstall Firefox 2) Install v76.0.1: brew cask install https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/homebrew-cask/40b6b69674d6a068105059668163476f21d94258/Casks/firefox.rb 3) /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox --allow-downgrade 4) Quickly disable auto update in Preferences 5) Be hap…

You should consider moving to Firefox ESR instead, so you'll still get security updates. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/switch-to-firefox-exten...

It won't be good forever, but it will last longer at least.

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