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Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

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Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

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Post by mydongle »

pm90 wrote: post #82
chrisco255 wrote: post #69

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Yes I choose to focus on that. It's destroying the fabric of these cities. It will cost these cities decades to come back, if ever, from the decimation. On the other side of this is poverty, ruin, and gang violence. That's what happens when you burn the core of your city down. I also see hateful graffiti sprayed all over my city about cops, despite the fact that the vast majority of them are peaceful and lawful and m…

I'm really sorry that your precious neighborhood has been defaced by graffiti. Its certainly as serious as the police systematically killing the people of non-white communities. > It's destroying the fabric of these cities. It will cost these cities decades to come back, if ever, from the decimation. On the other side of this is poverty, ruin, and gang violence. There is absolutely no evidence of anything close to th…

Latino gangs are literally getting involved now and starting to attack black people and other people who are on their turf for ruining their business. This is no longer simply a protest. Not when you have the ingredients for a race war. It's not as trivial as the destruction of a Macy's store.

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Post by jondwillis »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #81
jondwillis wrote: post #40

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Default on debts, boycotts, deplatforming and platform advantages that could be leveraged. Lots of ways to cause pain where it hurts most...

> Have you tried prolonged, painful protest? That’s what I am preparing myself to do, mind, body, and soul. Honesty feeling hopeful for the first time in awhile, bullish on protest and I think that tech can be leveraged in a significant way Looking over your posts in this thread, you seem eager to deploy censorship and violence so long as it’s against people you disagree with. Surely that could never turn around on y…

For anyone else looking for my previous posts promoting violence and censorship, you won’t find them. troll

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Post by oyra »

pm90 wrote: post #73
ReticentVole wrote: post #56

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There was a struggle to get George Floyd out of his car, and again into a police vehicle. Bodycam footage from the police, or a statement from them, has not been provided. We don't have the full facts. We know that George Floyd was a repeat criminal, with a record of armed violence, who was being arrested for another criminal act. Having a knee on his neck so long? Police incompetence. You know what else is police in…

Because there is no systemic pattern of cops killing Australian women, over and over and over and over again and not being charged at all. The police officer responsible was immediately fired and charged with murder, of which he was convicted [0]. Justice was served, what would people protest for? Compare that to Floyd, where it took sustained protests to get the main perpetrator arrested. When something terrible hap…

https://www.nber.org/papers/w22399

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Post by chrisco255 »

pm90 wrote: post #82
chrisco255 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I choose to focus on that. It's destroying the fabric of these cities. It will cost these cities decades to come back, if ever, from the decimation. On the other side of this is poverty, ruin, and gang violence. That's what happens when you burn the core of your city down. I also see hateful graffiti sprayed all over my city about cops, despite the fact that the vast majority of them are peaceful and lawful and m…

I'm really sorry that your precious neighborhood has been defaced by graffiti. Its certainly as serious as the police systematically killing the people of non-white communities. > It's destroying the fabric of these cities. It will cost these cities decades to come back, if ever, from the decimation. On the other side of this is poverty, ruin, and gang violence. There is absolutely no evidence of anything close to th…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&time_continue=... some of the collateral damage, if you can listen to this woman speak without feeling anything, then you don't have a soul.

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Post by rvschuilenburg »

NonEUCitizen wrote: post #88
whymauri wrote: post #63

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I've told friends that I have a sinking feeling a Tiananmen Square-like event might happen soon in the US. I predict that there will be people online arguing the semantics of what constitutes a "massacre" or a "tragedy." I hope we never get to that.

Did you see the videos of police SUVs driving through the people? The tank in Tiananmen Square actually stopped.

That was just one tank though. You can't really compare what happened in Tiananmen Square to what's happened in the US.

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Post by [deleted] »

dogma1138 wrote: post #86
Whatarethese wrote: post #51

Laser pointers are about to be bought out everywhere if this keeps going around the states. What is honestly the point of this? Show of force? Cool. Lots of people look scared based on these videos. Not.

Visors block them, that said even if they didn’t blinding a helicopter pilot hovering over a crowd is probably not a good idea.

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Post by apexalpha »

japhyr wrote: post #8

Anyone who's been around large helicopters knows exactly how much this is about a show of force, and has nothing to do with keeping the peace. The last thing you do with a large helicopter if you care about people's safety is hover over them. This is why I did not enjoy the "health care flyovers" recently. Normally when we have flyovers, it's meant to say "look at all the might we have to use in protecting you". Even…

Reminds me of the protests in Egypt.

Except in Egypt the military did it to show that were with the protestors and getting ready to swap the dictator out.

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Post by chrisco255 »

akersten wrote: post #38
nodesocket wrote: post #27

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I am certain to be in the minority, but how is this much different than seeing humvee and military armored police vehicles rolling down streets as of late? The helicopters were performing recon and visuals, again how is that different than police helicopters in LA that follow high speed chases? This particular helicopter story feels overblown and out of touch.

You can take a look at the videos yourself. Go on snapchat maps, click near the WH. That[0] is not "recon and visuals," that is a military helicopter intimidating US civilians on our own soil. [0]: https://s.sc-cdn.net/1KO38_D-saomzlpaMCGJvY96UMxYdW5Lsb-9MzD...

Last night these "peaceful" protestors burned a church directly across from the White House. The Lincoln memorial was defaced. The World War 2 memorial was defaced. The military has to protect the capital.

And this is a fire and police department set ablaze in Minneapolis: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8UO8ppmbjK8

You've lost the plot.

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Post by chrisco255 »

IvyMike wrote: post #58
nodesocket wrote: post #46

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Wasn't this past curfew (7pm in DC), which is illegal for them to be gathering?

Indeed it was a curfew violation. That is not a valid reason to illegally use the might of the US military.

Last night they attempted to burn a church directly across from the White House. These are domestic acts of terror. The military's highest responsibility is to protect the nation.

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Post by hedora »

mydongle wrote: post #23
pm90 wrote: post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

Can't listen over the sound of businesses being burned down and innocent people crying out of terror.

The looters and violent people at these events are distinct groups from the protesters.

There are many groups, but the most effective one is a right wing movement that is trying to start a second civil war by touching off race riots. Apparently international anarchists, and foreign governments’ misinformation campaigns are also making strong showings. Trump claims Antifa is too (though he has not provided any evidence to back that up).

Some of the right wingers have been caught with bombs, etc. Some have been firing weapons into crowds in an attempt to get police to shoot innocent people (and at least one person in Louisville was killed this way)

All of the major US news (except fox) networks are covering this continuously and showing pictures of the perpetrators, etc.

If you don’t believe their reporters, they also usually live stream the protests from the ground and the sky, so you can see for yourself. They covered a half dozen cities tonight.

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