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Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

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Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

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Post by somebrody »

nodesocket wrote: post #27
pm90 wrote: post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

I am certain to be in the minority, but how is this much different than seeing humvee and military armored police vehicles rolling down streets as of late? The helicopters were performing recon and visuals, again how is that different than police helicopters in LA that follow high speed chases? This particular helicopter story feels overblown and out of touch.

It's illegal for the military to monitor US citizens. It is illegal for them to police non-federal property.

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Post by MattGaiser »

whymauri wrote: post #30
mydongle wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't listen over the sound of businesses being burned down and innocent people crying out of terror.

I don't understand this. The warning signs of the current administration's fascist-adjacent policies have been here for four years. Please do not pretend that it's now that Americans cannot heed those signs due to protests, especially when the protests are partially in response to the current administration.

More that many Americans will now see fascism as providing a certain method of protection. Plenty of authoritarians are popularly elected based on some threat.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

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Post by whymauri »

MattGaiser wrote: post #42
whymauri wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this. The warning signs of the current administration's fascist-adjacent policies have been here for four years. Please do not pretend that it's now that Americans cannot heed those signs due to protests, especially when the protests are partially in response to the current administration.

More that many Americans will now see fascism as providing a certain method of protection. Plenty of authoritarians are popularly elected based on some threat.

I find this to be a much more compelling commentary and concern than the one I replied to. If what you mention does happen, it will be legitimately frightening.

At least when authoritarianism hit my home country (Venezuela), we could leave.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

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Post by nodesocket »

somebrody wrote: post #41
nodesocket wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am certain to be in the minority, but how is this much different than seeing humvee and military armored police vehicles rolling down streets as of late? The helicopters were performing recon and visuals, again how is that different than police helicopters in LA that follow high speed chases? This particular helicopter story feels overblown and out of touch.

It's illegal for the military to monitor US citizens. It is illegal for them to police non-federal property.

Wasn't this past curfew (7pm in DC), which is illegal for them to be gathering?

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Post by pm90 »

chrisco255 wrote: post #34
pm90 wrote: post #9

The alarm bells of fascism are ringing loudly, are the American people listening? It started with violating the rights of non-citizens by throwing them and their families in cages. Its building on centuries of black oppression and a nationwide corps of officers lead to believe certain class of Americans to be less than human. Today, the president used American Military-lite in a completely unnecessary display of mach…

The emergencies are all in Democrat run cities, where there's complete anarchy. Businesses are being smashed in, apartments are being burn to the ground. A world war 2 memorial was defaced. A church was burned. The Lincoln memorial was defaced. Macy's, the host of the Thanksgiving parade, has been completely raided and destroyed in NYC. Hundreds of Businesses were destroyed in Minneapolis, many who serve minority nei…

Don't distract from what's happening my friend. The American President had absolutely no need to let loose the military on peaceful protestors as he did today, simply to get a photo op in front of a church.

The majority of the protests across the country have been peaceful, with a minority engaging in rioting and looting. If that's what you choose to focus on, then you don't give a damn about justice.

Re: Military Helicopters Descend on Washington in Bizarre Low-Altitude Show of Force

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Post by swang »

option wrote: post #7

I wonder at what point the military will stop obeying criminal orders. Looking at the military leadership now, don’t fail us like certain police did.

lol at the idea that the military will disobey orders... if they're going to disobey orders it'll be to start a coup...
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