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Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Virtual signalling is the highest form of pandering.

The negative use of the term "virtue signalling" honestly baffles me. Why on earth is publicly stating your beliefs is a bad thing? Communication is how ideas spread.

“Virtue signalling” refers specifically to a public performative show of caring not because a person/organization actually cares but wants some sort of social, financial, political, or personal benefit from giving off the appearance of caring.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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You're using an outdated document as your source. I will not post direct links. Instead, I invite you to browse tags like #HongKongPoliceTerrorism, #HongKongPoliceBrutality, #HKpolice, etc. on Twitter. We all know not to trust COVID death counts from China. HK police brutality is something like that. We have video evidence of a few murders. As for the actual count, no one knows.

And many major tech companies (Apple, Google, YouTube, Bytedance) were censoring the HK protestors with China, Even when a protestor was shot with a live round on Facebook Live. Sounds like double standards with the current action with tech companies.

No not double standards. They are absolutely consistent standards. Zero principles. Pure profit motive. You don't have to run your company like that. This was a choice they have made. (Note that the profit motive isn't always the profit of the shareholders, it is the profit motive of the powerful inside the company).

Don't miss the point though. Cannot, under any circumstances be trusted. If they are sufficiently pressured they might do the right thing, or at least pretend to in public. Assume they are lying about everything until proven otherwise is a statement of the obvious.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weeke... 20 dead people in a week-end. Apparently, Blacks lives don't matter that much in Chicago. I guess it's only in the particular case that a white cop brutalizes a black suspect, in America, that the entire fucking world, from Germany to Tokyo, needs to be indignant, for some reason. It's totally organic and not a political manipulation at all /s

Politically manipulated like astroturf suburban gun nuts showing up armed and demanding an end to public health measures who were being actively orchestrated by Hair Twitler's thumbs? Regarding your statement: No. the scope and genuine rage of it is indicative of just how NOT organized it is. You wouldn't understand that, however, if your knee-jerk reaction is minimize racist American policing practices. (which aren'…

No, it makes absolutely no fucking sense. I can guarantee you that the people in New Zealand are not fed up about whatever the hell happens in the bloody MINNEAPOLIS police department.

Your entire narrative makes no sense and it's just a well-organized, global form of race baiting that is going to end up doing the exact opposite of what you claim to support. It's going to further divide communities along racial lines until eventual separation. It makes sense if you claim to follow the ideas of Malcolm X, but not if you think what you are doing is in the spirit of Martin Luther King.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Python Software Foundation's Twitter account did the same. I don't know how many more made a stance, but I needed to learn Wagtail CMS and they too went dark on their website. Maybe not all tech is political, but open source, freedom being one of its foundations, sure is.

0. https://twitter.com/ThePSF/status/1267591714925133825

1. https://wagtail.io/

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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your noticing the notice and them resuming tweets are asynchronous. If we want to bring some logic inferences the only thing we can say is that their next tweet must say something about restarting to tweet. Actually no, the only thing we could hold them up to is that before any tweet on the usual topics there should be a notice that normal tweets have begun again. It would be perfectly reasonable to now defend their…

I’m assuming the notice exists independently of whether I see it or not. If the notice is a tweet then submitting the tweet happens before anyone could read it and the account has resumed tweeting before giving notice. If the position is “we won’t tweet again until we do” then this is a meaningless announcement because that’s the default position of every twitter account.

The reason you are deriving a meaningless statement is because “we won’t tweet again until we do” is a terrible synopsis of that tweet. How about "we suspend how usual operation until further notice"?

If tomorrow morning they were to comment a justification of their choice that would still be outiside of the normal rust-related news the account concern itself and thus allowed.

Treating languages as naive logic statements is doing a disservice to both language and logic.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Non-violent protesters were getting killed by Hong Kong's police in broad daylight for the last few months. Were the Rust people not aware of them?

This is YOUR domestic problem, it hits home for many people. If Rust made the same for every injustice in the world, there would be no more tweets from them ever.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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post #56

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I’m assuming the notice exists independently of whether I see it or not. If the notice is a tweet then submitting the tweet happens before anyone could read it and the account has resumed tweeting before giving notice. If the position is “we won’t tweet again until we do” then this is a meaningless announcement because that’s the default position of every twitter account.

The reason you are deriving a meaningless statement is because “we won’t tweet again until we do” is a terrible synopsis of that tweet. How about "we suspend how usual operation until further notice"? If tomorrow morning they were to comment a justification of their choice that would still be outiside of the normal rust-related news the account concern itself and thus allowed. Treating languages as naive logic statem…

If it's doing a disservice to language and logic, why are you engaging with it talking about what would be "thus allowed"? Because it's fun, is why. I'm not confused by it, I'm taking their word as literal and asked a non-serious question that would go well with a thinking_face emoji.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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The negative use of the term "virtue signalling" honestly baffles me. Why on earth is publicly stating your beliefs is a bad thing? Communication is how ideas spread.

“Virtue signalling” refers specifically to a public performative show of caring not because a person/organization actually cares but wants some sort of social, financial, political, or personal benefit from giving off the appearance of caring.

Seems like to claim "Virtue Signaling" you have a.) "show of caring" but no evidence of b.) "wanting some benefit from giving the appearance".

And without any attempt of evidence or justification for claim of B, just dropping the accusation of virtual signaling comes across as merely trying to describe "openly not being an asshole" as if it were a bad thing.

Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”

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Python Software Foundation's Twitter account did the same. I don't know how many more made a stance, but I needed to learn Wagtail CMS and they too went dark on their website. Maybe not all tech is political, but open source, freedom being one of its foundations, sure is. 0. https://twitter.com/ThePSF/status/1267591714925133825 1. https://wagtail.io/

Freedom includes the freedom to not do something.

That's why when I modify a free software package for my own personal use and gratification, I'm not forced to distribute the changes to anyone, not even upstream.

Archive.org's copies, like the one at https://web.archive.org/web/20190212143902/https://wagtail.i... , seems usable. Plus, things like http://docs.wagtail.io/en/v2.4/ are still live.

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