I know this will get accused of being whataboutism, but isn't it a bizarre sort of leftist chauvinism to make gestures like this about issues in ones own country in spite of similar things happening across the world on a weekly basis - especially for a project that touts itself as very international in scope?
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Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”
#42I'm not even following the rationale. They're angry at Twitter? For what, exactly?
I would assume that it is in the same rationale as "taking a minute of silence". It is a statement and a public ritual to both express and show seriousness of an event.
Obviously they are not the same thing, but it is not trivial to find a precise rationale under things that have no need to be 100% rational, such as showing public support.
Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You're using an outdated document as your source. You're right, the document is outdated. I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths. > I will not post direct links. Please do instead. And no, I don't think twitter is a reliable source, twitter is an information battleground, you should know it. > HK police brutality is something like that. HK c…
> I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths. Not to deemphasize the seriousness of an actual death, but the difference between shooting at protestors (especially if in a crowd, but I have not seen the video) and casualties is a matter of luck.
True of course. For example a police agent shot at close range a protester that was attacking him with an iron bar [1]. Luckily it seems the protester survived.
But again, over many months of mass demonstrations, sometimes violent, the number of zero or very few actual deaths is significant.
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/world/asia/hong-kong-shoo...
Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”
#44I know this will get accused of being whataboutism, but isn't it a bizarre sort of leftist chauvinism to make gestures like this about issues in ones own country in spite of similar things happening across the world on a weekly basis - especially for a project that touts itself as very international in scope?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weeke...
20 dead people in a week-end. Apparently, Blacks lives don't matter that much in Chicago. I guess it's only in the particular case that a white cop brutalizes a black suspect, in America, that the entire fucking world, from Germany to Tokyo, needs to be indignant, for some reason. It's totally organic and not a political manipulation at all /s
Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”
#45I know this will get accused of being whataboutism, but isn't it a bizarre sort of leftist chauvinism to make gestures like this about issues in ones own country in spite of similar things happening across the world on a weekly basis - especially for a project that touts itself as very international in scope?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weeke... 20 dead people in a week-end. Apparently, Blacks lives don't matter that much in Chicago. I guess it's only in the particular case that a white cop brutalizes a black suspect, in America, that the entire fucking world, from Germany to Tokyo, needs to be indignant, for some reason. It's totally organic and not a political manipulation at all /s
Politically manipulated like astroturf suburban gun nuts showing up armed and demanding an end to public health measures who were being actively orchestrated by Hair Twitler's thumbs?
Regarding your statement: No. the scope and genuine rage of it is indicative of just how NOT organized it is. You wouldn't understand that, however, if your knee-jerk reaction is minimize racist American policing practices. (which aren't suprising, given the origins of SOME American police forces in militias hunting runaway slaves, and others origins in working security for the great industrial "robber barons", betcha didn't know that.)
Your dismissal of global visceral POINTED anger over police violence-with-impunity ignores 1) the scores of extremely well known black victims of police aggression that didn't result in any change. Philando Castile comes to mind, Freddy Gray, Eric Garner, Michael Brown.
People are FED UP, and the issue isn't a light one like "i want a haircut" but rather, "I want not to be murdered by cops by the simple virtue of my skin color"
Make sense?
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#46Top tweet reply Twitter fed me was on point - Replying to @rustlang "The world is bigger than just the USA." There are a lot of problems in the world, Syria pops into mind or a billion people who can't fully feed their kids. But they are not a viral Twitter sensation. Gotta be 'cool'
So, if YOUR family members were being hunted and murdered by a gang of thugs who operate with impunity, you would be wrong to be angry and fed up, as the 10th cousin of yours gets shot by this gang?
Why would this be about "being cool" and not the rage of being constantly targeted and NO systemic change since the Jim Crow law era?
It's been the same since Emmett Till, and frankly, your reaction is a bit hard to believe. Can a human truly be ignorant of the facts on the ground in the USA of being black or white and the differing treatment you get?
I'll wager that you don't watch CNN, as you smell a little Foxy, but they had 2 reporter crews on the ground 1 block apart in Minneapolis, and the black anchor and his crew got arrested ON-AIR, and the white guys crew got politely asked to move after their credentials were checked.
Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a "who shaved the barber?" puzzle; that situation should be forbidden by the content of the tweet - they're not allowed to tweet again until after they've given notice.
your noticing the notice and them resuming tweets are asynchronous. If we want to bring some logic inferences the only thing we can say is that their next tweet must say something about restarting to tweet. Actually no, the only thing we could hold them up to is that before any tweet on the usual topics there should be a notice that normal tweets have begun again. It would be perfectly reasonable to now defend their…
I’m assuming the notice exists independently of whether I see it or not. If the notice is a tweet then submitting the tweet happens before anyone could read it and the account has resumed tweeting before giving notice.
If the position is “we won’t tweet again until we do” then this is a meaningless announcement because that’s the default position of every twitter account.
Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”
#48this make absolutely no sense. as one reply pointed out, are they going to shutdown their feed every time something happens? maybe i'm just too involved in AA, so i like the whole concept of "we have no opinions on outside issues". rust is doing the opposite of this. to me, if the individual core team members want to take stance and not tweet, that's fine, but the organization as a whole shouldn't.
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#49> Rust believes that tech is and always will be political- take some time today to invest in your community.
Re: Rustlang: “This account will pause tweeting until further notice”
#50Not seeing anything similar on /r/rust, or the official forum. This twitter account barely tweets at all, it's like they want to send a message, but don't want to actually inconvenience anybody.
Virtual signalling is the highest form of pandering.
The negative use of the term "virtue signalling" honestly baffles me. Why on earth is publicly stating your beliefs is a bad thing? Communication is how ideas spread.