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Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by rubber_duck »

phone8675309 wrote: post #37
blueterminal wrote: post #24

People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

>Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? Except Facebook is a private platform. That people use it does not make it a public platform. That would be like arguing that Six Flags over Georgia can't remove you from their park because you started protesting in it. Yes, there are people there, but no, just because they're there and it's a popular place doesn't mean they can'…

Umm first of all social media is nothing like a park (public or private), and government has a lot of ammunition to fire at them if they decide to play politics.

When companies start getting hijacked by hipster activists, entering political arena and stepping on policy maker toes they are going to get smacked down - and rightfully so - the last thing we need is some anonymous nobody from twitter deciding what to fact check and how to frame it on what's presented as a public communication channel for the elected official.

If twitter was heavily right wing and they did this to Obama the same people cheering them on now would be up in arms - this is just partisan BS.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by [deleted] »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #12
spamizbad wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of location, Facebook is hiring from demographics that typically don't support Trump. Young, STEM-educated people skew left. If you want Trump supporters to even things out you're probably going to either: A) hire older devs from less traditional software dev backgrounds. B) Still pull from Young+STEM but filter out anyone whose social media indicates them as being left-ish.

> but filter out anyone whose social media indicates them as being left-ish. Hiring based on political beliefs, or in this case, presumed political beliefs, sounds like a dangerous road to go down. And I am saying this as a young, STEM-educated person who skews left.

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by AlexandrB »

Facebook is too big, has too much reach, and is largely unaccountable to elected representatives - especially outside the United States. Whether Facebook decides to censor an elected official is largely a red herring. They need to be broken up[1] so that individual countries have a chance at holding them to account if they do something shitty and users have more choice of what social network to use if they disagree with Facebook's policies.

[1] At a minimum, the WhatsApp and Instagram acquisitions need to be rolled back.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by noscrewstoyous »

buboard wrote: post #54

What do FB engineers think? Should FB be editing its content and be designated as a publisher? This would imply a major change with hiring of thousands of employees and journalists to become a proper written medium. It would also mean their own wages would go way down to accomodate these new hires.

they already edit content, amazed that even on hn people seem to think that facebook isn’t dramatically controlling which content you see

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by xnyan »

dordoka wrote: post #40
neilsimp1 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but filter out anyone whose social media indicates them as being left-ish. Hiring based on political beliefs, or in this case, presumed political beliefs, sounds like a dangerous road to go down. And I am saying this as a young, STEM-educated person who skews left.

At least in EU, discriminating based on political beliefs goes against art. 21 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. Pardon my ignorance but, is that allowed in the US?

No, broadly speaking there are no national laws in the US agaisnt firing someone for their political views. It is complicated but basically in the US, at the national level there are a few protected classes (age, gender religion, race, disablity) and you can’t make the decison to fire someone based on these reasons. You can fire people for any other reason or no reason, so in practice this protection is limited and genreally favors the employer. Some US states have their own addtional labor protections.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

Traster wrote: post #69
throwaway4715 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, you're the person I wouldn't hire. Judging large swaths of people with no nuance for their individual situations. Now what does that remind me of... The selective outrage against Facebook for police brutality is something to behold. Facebook didn't exist during the lynchings of the 20th century or any number of race riots. You telling me things are somehow worse now that social media exists. Check your peop…

Sorry, I might have misunderstood, but did you just equate choosing to work at Facebook with being black?

The comment is somewhat coherent in the first line. I'm not sure what happened after that. Nor am I sure why he wrote "You are someone I wouldn't hire" as if such a topic would come up during the interviewing process.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by malloreon »

Every Facebook employee should receive blowback for continuing to work there. They make the choice each day to create more value than they cost to support this platform - they implicitly support its reprehensible ideas.

You work there, you own this. It is who you are.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by elteto »

mjayhn wrote: post #7

People on twitter at other $bigtech seem more than happy to bring you all on board but you've been sucking that $270k+ top-end-even-for-FAANG salary with no concern for the ethics or morality of your business for years. This isn't new. I'm less than excited to see Facebook show up on a resume and haven't been for years. Not to mention the people I've interviewed from there seem to get so accustomed to working on Face…

Passing judgment on thousands of employees like this is really no better either, you are just imposing your own morals on them.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Post by Angostura »

mjayhn wrote: post #7

People on twitter at other $bigtech seem more than happy to bring you all on board but you've been sucking that $270k+ top-end-even-for-FAANG salary with no concern for the ethics or morality of your business for years. This isn't new. I'm less than excited to see Facebook show up on a resume and haven't been for years. Not to mention the people I've interviewed from there seem to get so accustomed to working on Face…

We really need to make a list of all the people who are bastards, just to keep it straight.

So far we have all Cops, Facebook employees, Google employees (or is it just some).

Would be a handy reference.

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