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Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

>Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? Except Facebook is a private platform. That people use it does not make it a public platform. That would be like arguing that Six Flags over Georgia can't remove you from their park because you started protesting in it. Yes, there are people there, but no, just because they're there and it's a popular place doesn't mean they can'…

so are the utilities- Yet we still found a way to regulate them (in our capitalist dystopia)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #38

Facebook employees are not adequately representative of the population as a whole. They lean overwhelmingly left and as such I would take their "blowback" with a grain of salt.

In your opinion whose view best represents "the population as a whole," and what percentage of the conversation does their opinion represent?

Billions of users. I would imagine it is the entire spectrum of political and cultural opinions. Pro-live/Pro-choice. Religious/Atheist. Traditional/Multicultural.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FAANG talking down on other FAANG seems funny.

I'm not FAANG just a concerned contributor who gets to work with them daily and was watching this unfold while getting tear gassed standing in drum circles this weekend. Unless this is about G attacking FBers, yeah, that has been fun to watch. As usual the FB'ers are pretty silent about everything. Couple of "hi i work for fb and want to leave what should i do" posts but that was all I really saw.

I'm concerned for someone who has so much wrongly placed anger... dude you're all worked up about Facebook for no reason, get real they aren't the enemy

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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What do FB engineers think? Should FB be editing its content and be designated as a publisher? This would imply a major change with hiring of thousands of employees and journalists to become a proper written medium. It would also mean their own wages would go way down to accomodate these new hires.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #3

This is part of the circle of life for internal Facebook turmoil: 10 Facebook does something to draw ire 20 Employee drama 30 The company leadership offers some platitudes to buy time 40 GOTO 10

5. (Optional) Establish some Oversight Council or Committee, to be disenfranchised, dissolved, or declawed at the company's earliest convenience.

If my memory of BASIC from the 80s is still accurate, Line 5 will never get executed, because of the GOTO 1 in line 4, so not even optional.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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post #7

People on twitter at other $bigtech seem more than happy to bring you all on board but you've been sucking that $270k+ top-end-even-for-FAANG salary with no concern for the ethics or morality of your business for years. This isn't new. I'm less than excited to see Facebook show up on a resume and haven't been for years. Not to mention the people I've interviewed from there seem to get so accustomed to working on Face…

Honestly, you're the person I wouldn't hire. Judging large swaths of people with no nuance for their individual situations. Now what does that remind me of...

The selective outrage against Facebook for police brutality is something to behold. Facebook didn't exist during the lynchings of the 20th century or any number of race riots. You telling me things are somehow worse now that social media exists. Check your people instead cause I'm almost certain this comment was made by a white person.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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I think we all know he is not "facing" anything. People that collect big and stable salaries will not change company employment over this.

Virtue signalling is cheap, endangering your family's livelihood is hard.

"It's very difficult to make somebody understand something, especially if their salary depends on them not understanding it."

Facebook is, in general, an unethical company. And this has been known for a long time. If you didn't leave yet you won't leave over this either.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

> People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not?

This is a strange inversion. I would guess that most of the disgruntled FB employees want a transparent review system with rules that are applied consistently, with exactly zero intervention from Mark Zuckerberg.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds unfair. Of course you very accustomed to working with tools you work with every day, especially if they're good. You'll also never find a 1:1 match between companies though and not-bad people can switch between systems as needed. Unless you need an intermediate level boilerplate writer ready to go with tech X and Y from day 1, it should be fine. Why not say: These are people experienced with systems that…

Because it's pretty clear the point of the comment was the lack of ethics in pursuit of money. Not everybody wants to work at places like that, or with people like that. What's the point in them bringing technical expertise to your environment if they poison the culture with their amorality and venality? Money isn't everything, some of us know that, some of us don't care. Assuming the premise, natch. :)

The post was much shorter when I responded and the technical bit was a more significant part of it. I totally get the other points, but they stand on their own.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg faces employee blowback over ruling on Trump comments

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People really want Zuckerberg to decide whether posts of the president should be deleted or not? Is this for real? We really need mainstream decentralized applications more than ever. Thoughts of people should not be censored. Who the hell should be the truth police? You? People that have the same beliefs as you? This is just ridiculous. I don't like Facebook but great decision by Mark. Same as they decided to not re…

People are happy Twitter exercises its right to moderate speech because it moderates it the way they like.

People are unhappy that Facebook moderates speech because it’s moderating it they way they don’t like.

So, they only like free speech if they agree with it, otherwise they don’t.

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