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Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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When I hear your first point, I consider the possibility that these are not retaliatory murders, but rather ways to keep something secret. If there was an agenda behind these riots organized at a higher level than these leaders, similar to what is being suggested by some during these current protests, and those higher level organizers wanted to keep the agenda or those who set it hidden, it could explain why lower le…

Pure speculation can sound rational and thorough, but most often it leads towards the ideas that seem most dramatic and exciting, and that conform to your own preconceptions and prejudices.

I think that's right, but I don't think that speculation doesn't have its uses. The truth is probably somewhere between the speculative extremes, and asking questions about the extremes causes people to look into things, which hopefully eventually lead to the truth and a resolution, both of which are probably nowhere near the extremes.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#93
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The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…

Given that this is a protest about cops getting away with brutality even when there's clear evidence I think "gather evidence against both sides equally" is unlikely to be convincing argument to protesters.

I doubt any criminal really wants to be captured on video. Having just watched a couple of videos this morning of "protesters" viciously kicking their unconscious victims in the head, I'm very much against the idea of anonymizing any of this.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#94
post #37

The protests are being live-streamed on Facebook, twitch, YouTube etc. So while they is interesting, it is ultimately useless. The data is already out there.

And anyone who wants to gather intelligence can simply take their own photos and videos.

Doesn't mean we don't have to make it even easier, though.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#95
post #39

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This is shocking and should absolutely be more widely reported as it may change behaviour of present day activists. We need an anonymizing solution for protest organizing.

>it may change behaviour of present day activists that's exactly what the murderers want to achieve

Behaviour change may be more / better masks, etc. I am shocked by the number of people clearly committing crimes without masks.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#96
post #13

The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…

The more that protestors refrain from violent property destruction, the less likely it becomes that the three cops who were accessories in the murder of George Floyd get charges brought against them. Burning down one precinct got one cop charged (albeit with a 3rd degree); I would really love to see the other three charged, even if it requires some anonymous protestors to light up three more precincts. I'd gladly tra…

Since police are in the habit of teargassing people who are not engaging in any violence that seems pretty inequitable.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#97
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post #31

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Many organizers of protests in Furguson, peaceful or otherwise, have since been found murdered in ways that suggest they were literally hunted down and killed for their involvement. Multiple have been found shot through the head in burned out cars to destroy all evidence. If they broke the law it still does not merit being executed in the street. ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tie... ) In…

For those who do not click through to the article: “Police say that there is no evidence the deaths have anything to do with the protests”. From my time in Portland, working at the courthouse as a court clerk during the Occupy movement, when hundreds of transient “protesters” camped out in the park, it is not surprising that some of those folks would OD or end up dead for reasons entirely not related to protesting bu…

What an amazing coincidence.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#98

Assuming this tool was intended for those who want to share photos on social media, Facebook and Instagram already strip metadata out from the photos you share otherwise anybody could scrape the photo and get metadata. I'm not sure for Twitter tho but I think it is the same.

How much do you trust them not to save that information?

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#99

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Given that this is a protest about cops getting away with brutality even when there's clear evidence I think "gather evidence against both sides equally" is unlikely to be convincing argument to protesters.

I doubt any criminal really wants to be captured on video. Having just watched a couple of videos this morning of "protesters" viciously kicking their unconscious victims in the head, I'm very much against the idea of anonymizing any of this.

Depends on how it's used. For example it could be useful for people protesting authoritarian governments, such as in Hong Kong. For blurring rioters during a crime spree, I don't think there's anything moral to be gained from protecting criminals.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

#100
post #37

The protests are being live-streamed on Facebook, twitch, YouTube etc. So while they is interesting, it is ultimately useless. The data is already out there.

Not if you hijack the camera directly* :) [1] https://www.linkedin.com/posts/creativetech_tensorflowjs-bod...

How do you expect that to work on a phone and still provide viewers with a clear idea of what is going on
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