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Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by xienze »

adge wrote: post #31
hirundo wrote: post #13

The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…

Many organizers of protests in Furguson, peaceful or otherwise, have since been found murdered in ways that suggest they were literally hunted down and killed for their involvement. Multiple have been found shot through the head in burned out cars to destroy all evidence. If they broke the law it still does not merit being executed in the street. ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tie... ) In…

Isn’t the point of civil disobedience that you know what you’re doing could have consequences? All I’m hearing is “we should let people trash entire cities and not be held accountable.”

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by therealcamino »

briefcomment wrote: post #45
adge wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many organizers of protests in Furguson, peaceful or otherwise, have since been found murdered in ways that suggest they were literally hunted down and killed for their involvement. Multiple have been found shot through the head in burned out cars to destroy all evidence. If they broke the law it still does not merit being executed in the street. ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tie... ) In…

When I hear your first point, I consider the possibility that these are not retaliatory murders, but rather ways to keep something secret. If there was an agenda behind these riots organized at a higher level than these leaders, similar to what is being suggested by some during these current protests, and those higher level organizers wanted to keep the agenda or those who set it hidden, it could explain why lower le…

Pure speculation can sound rational and thorough, but most often it leads towards the ideas that seem most dramatic and exciting, and that conform to your own preconceptions and prejudices.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by klyrs »

im3w1l-alt wrote: post #46
klyrs wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a blur filter uses a convolution, then it's invertible through a deconvolution.

There will be some information loss from edge effects and quantization noise. But mostly invertible.

You're not wrong but invertible filters, noise or no, are simply not anonymizing and should not be used for that purpose.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by lapnitnelav »

blhack wrote: post #37

The protests are being live-streamed on Facebook, twitch, YouTube etc. So while they is interesting, it is ultimately useless. The data is already out there.

Not if you hijack the camera directly* :)

[1] https://www.linkedin.com/posts/creativetech_tensorflowjs-bod...

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by ghvfuh94 »

adge wrote: post #31
hirundo wrote: post #13

The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…

Many organizers of protests in Furguson, peaceful or otherwise, have since been found murdered in ways that suggest they were literally hunted down and killed for their involvement. Multiple have been found shot through the head in burned out cars to destroy all evidence. If they broke the law it still does not merit being executed in the street. ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tie... ) In…

What's more likely? That there is a grand conspiracy by shady elitists to protect the NWO by assassinating black thugs in a ghetto? Or that black thugs are shooting each other, as they tend to do, taking drugs and killing themselves?

The article tries to tug on your heartstrings by pointing out that black residents live in higher crime areas than White residents: funny, that.

It goes on to say that black men comprise 50 of the 65 homicide victims for the year, yet conveniently fails to note that all but 1 of the 15 known killers are black men.

It's incredibly disingenuous and dangerous. It riles up the kind of conspiracy theorists who rave about White supremacists and systematic killer cops, directly and significantly contributing to the rioting we see now.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by snazz »

mceachen wrote: post #69
snazz wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this data included in iPhone photos? I don't think so.

iPhone metadata includes several fingerprints that can be used to differentiate between different devices, including a serial number, uptime in seconds, and shutter release count (depending on the model of iPhone you have). (source: me examining as many different iPhone models and instances to build deduping heuristics for PhotoStructure)

Interesting! That's more information than I thought. Thanks for informing me!

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by blotter_paper »

tal8d wrote: post #63
blotter_paper wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more that protestors refrain from violent property destruction, the less likely it becomes that the three cops who were accessories in the murder of George Floyd get charges brought against them. Burning down one precinct got one cop charged (albeit with a 3rd degree); I would really love to see the other three charged, even if it requires some anonymous protestors to light up three more precincts. I'd gladly tra…

Ah justice. It is better that ten innocent persons suffer than that one guilty escape. -- Bizzaro William Blackstone

The topic of the week is an extrajudicial murder committed by a team of four cops; where was our restraint in deciding the fate of George Floyd? Do these officers deserve nicer treatment than this system gave Floyd? Did Floyd deserve this treatment, too? If so, why didn't he get it?

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by paulryanrogers »

tal8d wrote: post #63
blotter_paper wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more that protestors refrain from violent property destruction, the less likely it becomes that the three cops who were accessories in the murder of George Floyd get charges brought against them. Burning down one precinct got one cop charged (albeit with a 3rd degree); I would really love to see the other three charged, even if it requires some anonymous protestors to light up three more precincts. I'd gladly tra…

Ah justice. It is better that ten innocent persons suffer than that one guilty escape. -- Bizzaro William Blackstone

Is this meant to be sarcasm? (Honest question)

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by luckylion »

briefcomment wrote: post #45
adge wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many organizers of protests in Furguson, peaceful or otherwise, have since been found murdered in ways that suggest they were literally hunted down and killed for their involvement. Multiple have been found shot through the head in burned out cars to destroy all evidence. If they broke the law it still does not merit being executed in the street. ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tie... ) In…

When I hear your first point, I consider the possibility that these are not retaliatory murders, but rather ways to keep something secret. If there was an agenda behind these riots organized at a higher level than these leaders, similar to what is being suggested by some during these current protests, and those higher level organizers wanted to keep the agenda or those who set it hidden, it could explain why lower le…

> When I hear your first point, I consider the possibility that these are not retaliatory murders, but rather ways to keep something secret.

That contains as much conspiracy as "somebody is hunting down the protestors".

There are simpler possible explanations, I believe, e.g. people who join (or organize) riots are usually not the stable boring kind that live long, predictable lives full of planning and quiet afternoons. Drugs, crime, violence and mental health issues are probably more prevalent in that group than in the general population.

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