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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by mnm1 »

myrion wrote: post #3
TeaDrunk wrote: post #2

Note that Minneapolis state police have claimed that the reporters were released from jail the following morning after confirming themselves as media, which CNN responded by saying they had identified themselves before their arrest and it was only through the Goverers interference that their reporters were released the following morning.

I mean, it happened live on air, they were clearly identified as CNN and willing to comply with police orders - making the police's claim laughable. I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera.

What was the officer who murdered Floyd on live camera thinking, fully aware that Floyd was dying? Probably the same thing as these assholes. That they will get off without any punishment because of qualified immunity. The same thing every police officer in America thinks when they are about to murder or hurt another person. It's hardly a secret.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by jjeaff »

apta wrote: post #335
TeaDrunk wrote: post #2

Note that Minneapolis state police have claimed that the reporters were released from jail the following morning after confirming themselves as media, which CNN responded by saying they had identified themselves before their arrest and it was only through the Goverers interference that their reporters were released the following morning.

Do those crewmen have an arrest record now? How can it affect their future employment or other conducts?

With a short explanation of what you were doing where, this arrest record probably couldn't hurt.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by acobster »

tinyhouse wrote: post #360
acobster wrote: post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to think that violence is the only option. You obviously think it's justified, but you still haven't stated a reason why being naked in public justifies bodily harm, maybe because you think the need to physically subdue this person was self-evident, by whatever means necessary? I disagree with that premise. This is why one of the central demands of the movement for black lives is "counselors not cops." I'm 1…

Well, if a counselor could help resolve such situations quickly I'm all for it. But I'm doubtful based on my previous experience with troubled people. People have many opinions and ideas until one of those people become their own personal problem. There has been systematic racism everywhere. Did we close academia because of systematic racism? The system will need to change. But there are no alternatives like some peo…

"We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings."

- Ursula K. Le Guin

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by 101404 »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #347
101404 wrote: post #166

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That would be a pretty good idea. Just need to come up with some way to limit access to only the own citizens for sensitive information. Maybe if only certain trusted people had access, and they would do it as their job, and then they would report their findings, and investigate wrongdoings they found, and then we would give them money to be able to read those reports about government wrongdoings... hm, how could we…

Internal Affairs? While I’d like to believe the IA exists to stop the police from doing wrong, it’s more like an HR for the police.

I was going for "Journalists".

Interesting that people don't even seem to remember that those once existed

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by frogpelt »

_bxg1 wrote: post #114
maskedinvader wrote: post #8

Isn't this situational irony ? reporters covering the events that were a result of unreasonable police actions themselves were subject to the unreasonable actions of the police.

Honestly as a piece of reporting I don't think it could have possibly gone better.

This is so true. All I could think was that Omar Jimenez and CNN are as giddy as they can be about this.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by frogpelt »

zdragnar wrote: post #86
papercrane wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to CNN's timeline the police asked them to move at 5:09 AM, the reporter asked where they wanted them, at 5:11 AM the police arrested them. The reporter was not given the chance to follow directions. https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protest-update...

This is a pragmatic point of view, not necessarily what I believe is "right": Generally speaking, you don't stand around and try to have a conversation with the police. In a tough situation, the very last priority of the police is helping CNN get a nice camera shot. Had they moved immediately upon being given the order to clear the street, then attempted to have the conversation, they likely would not have faced arre…

It's possible the police were saying things that couldn't be heard on television because the mic was not in front of their mouths and they were wearing huge masks.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by JSavageOne »

mcherm wrote: post #189
JSavageOne wrote: post #113

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That's horrifying. Why don't we change the law?

Consider how one goes about changing a law. Generally it starts with citizens making a fuss to inform their elected representatives that they think the existing laws need to be changed. Recently, in Minnesota, hundreds of people gathered in a protest on precisely this topic. They gathered to say (for their elected representatives and everyone else to hear) that they wanted a change to the laws and the system that per…

Seems like our political system is broken then.

If the public so adamantly wants laws that elected representatives refuse to pass, then it seems that enabling direct democracy would be one solution to getting these laws passed.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by DocSavage »

jdashg wrote: post #323
eyelidlessness wrote: post #71

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> I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera. Speaking as someone who's been to a lot of protests, ranging from "peaceful as a baby" to "as street medics we treated 1/3-1/2 of the protestors"... the same thing cops are always thinking. As an institution, they don't like the press, oversight, or public scrutiny of their actions. They react the same way to people with press credenti…

Since there clearly aren't penalties for corruption (even corruption-lite like this), it's no surprise that it persists. While we can understand why they do it, that does not make it acceptable, and there have to start being consequences. I can't help but feel that strong independent oversight is necessary, as the status quo is clearly insufficient.

The police unions and particularly this administration have been actively undermining strong independent oversight.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by lrdd »

Jenz wrote: post #272
take_a_breath wrote: post #93

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==I think the level of impunity of "I am the law" instead of laws being laws, has taken over far too many in the police department.== Never heard it put quite this way. Well said!

Being a punctuation mark enthusiast, I’m very interested where you got that ⟨==xxx==⟩ notation from

It is also the header syntax for Vimwiki[0]

[0]: https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki

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