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Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by Vomzor »

ornornor wrote: post #14

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo. It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlo…

There is a critical bug in 10.15 that deletes random mails and it still hasn’t been fixed! https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/10/11/mail-data-loss-in-macos-1...

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by auggierose »

st3fan wrote: post #19
ornornor wrote: post #14

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo. It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlo…

> Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Weird, I've been using it for a decade and I have zero issues. Maybe 'unusable' is a pretty subjective assessment?

What configuration are you running? This bug happens to me several times a day, though I am trying to close Apple Mail when I am not using it, but that's easy to forget and also annoying.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

ornornor wrote: post #14

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo. It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlo…

I’ve been using Apple Mail on both desktop and iPhone for many years. It’s not perfect, but I’ve found it far superior to the alternatives, including Thunderbird and Outlook.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by chrisseaton »

Austin_Conlon wrote: post #17
chrisseaton wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your bug will at least then be triaged and acknowledged. Lol sure it will.

Can't say for Mail, but in my experience watchOS and SwiftUI reports are frequently acknowledged.

Apple definitely has a history of not acknowledging for a long time major problems that many people can clearly demonstrate. Bend gate, antenna gate, stage light gate, that thing with the coating on the screens...

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by [deleted] »

Vomzor wrote: post #21
ornornor wrote: post #14

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo. It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlo…

There is a critical bug in 10.15 that deletes random mails and it still hasn’t been fixed! https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/10/11/mail-data-loss-in-macos-1...

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Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by orloffm »

st3fan wrote: post #19
ornornor wrote: post #14

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo. It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlo…

> Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Weird, I've been using it for a decade and I have zero issues. Maybe 'unusable' is a pretty subjective assessment?

If people keep alligators at home, and some are eaten by them, the assessment of them being unsuitable for pets is not subjective.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by rinaldsarins »

I have the same issue, in fact I'm so used to it that I even do not notice it anymore, except when watching fullscreen video, then I'm like: "It's just the way how things are here...[quits Mail]".

As someone already mentioned - I'm also pretty sure it's related to some disconnect/reconnect thing.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by cwhiz »

st3fan wrote: post #19
ornornor wrote: post #14

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo. It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlo…

> Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Weird, I've been using it for a decade and I have zero issues. Maybe 'unusable' is a pretty subjective assessment?

Same. The only issue I have noticed is that Mail sometimes freaks out when I lose internet connection. It’s pretty rare for that to happen and it doesn’t freak out every time, either. I have not experienced any of the bugs other people are having.

I have six different email accounts with a ton of folders.

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