Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by 4ad » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:07 PM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #4

Please make sure to log this at http://bugreporter.apple.com Your bug will at least then be triaged and acknowledged.

Apple bug tracker is so frustrating.

They take forever to answer, and ask for things that you have already provided in your original issue. When you try to reproduce the bug on multiple versions, they close your bug if you reproduced it on beta versions, because beta versions are unsupported, even though the bug affects release versions. Sometimes this happens even if they asked you to try the beta version!

The bugs are almost always closed as duplicate of another bug, which, of course, you can't see because the bug tracker is private.

The bugs are never fixed, at least no bug that I have ever reported has been fixed. Years or months later after submitting a bug that happens not to be closed as duplicate of another bug, they get closed because a new version of macOS is released, and you are encouraged to resubmit your report if it still affects the new version, which inevitably it does...

Even if the bug is in some open source component, and you provide a patch, it is ignored and eventually closed as explained above.

It's a total waste of time and a pain in the ass to submit bugs to Apple.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by lcnmrn » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:09 PM UTC

I keep it minimized to avoid the issue and to get notifications.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by galad87 » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:09 PM UTC

holstvoogd wrote: post #9

Pretty sure it is due too it not being able to connect to a mail server. every time it happens, i see the "couldn't connect" icon

Yes, that's it. It happened with my Gmail account too, it stopped when I removed it from Mail.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by ornornor » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:09 PM UTC

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo.

It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlook it lasts all day (12+h)

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by Veen » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:10 PM UTC

This has been annoying me for months. It’s particularly irritating when you’re screen sharing. I just make sure Mail is quit when I’m not using it, which isn’t ideal.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by amachefe » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:10 PM UTC

Added to this, have anybody been able to get Mail app to connect via authenticated proxy?..

I can only use Outlook to work at work which is frustrating

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by Austin_Conlon » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:12 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #6

threeseed wrote: post #4

Please make sure to log this at http://bugreporter.apple.com Your bug will at least then be triaged and acknowledged.

> Your bug will at least then be triaged and acknowledged. Lol sure it will.

Can't say for Mail, but in my experience watchOS and SwiftUI reports are frequently acknowledged.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by 1_player » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:14 PM UTC

lcnmrn wrote: post #12

I keep it minimized to avoid the issue and to get notifications.

It still pops up when it's minimised. I blame this bug for my inboxes going to crap over the past year, because the only fix for me is keeping Mail closed and opening it only when I really need to.

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by st3fan » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:15 PM UTC

ornornor wrote: post #14

Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable. Do yourself a favor and switch. Anything else is better than it, Thunderbird is a pretty good alternative imo. It feels like apple doesn’t put any care into regression bugs in their applications. It’s the same on the iPhone, Mail is so bad that I uninstalled it in favor of outlook (the irony...) —Mail was sucking so much battery that my phone wouldn’t last 8h. With outlo…

> Apple Mail is riddled with bugs it’s unusable.

Weird, I've been using it for a decade and I have zero issues. Maybe 'unusable' is a pretty subjective assessment?

Re: Apple Mail randomly becomes the frontmost application in macOS

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Post by 1_player » Sat, May 30, 2020, 12:16 PM UTC

ancarda wrote: post #3

I get something like this with Music.app -- it seems to randomly open. I suspect it's some kind of keystroke (i.e. hitting the play button) but I haven't figured out exactly why it's happening or how to stop it. I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen until I upgraded to Catalina. I really wish I had better luck with Linux...

If no media is currently playing or paused and you press the Play button by mistake, the Music app opens. It's extremely annoying.