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The Day AppGet Died

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Re: The Day AppGet Died

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How does AppGet compete with apt-get?

I thought AppGet was a pun on apt-get and thought the name was clever. I thought it was better named than Chocolatey or Scoop. Edit: plan > pun. (no idea why I wrote plan, i think I wanted to write play)

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Re: The Day AppGet Died

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That's more recent. A long time ago (and I'm working from memory, so best to fact check anything I say, because my memory is terrible) it was common to use a particular rat poison in dry milk (and I forget exactly what it was). There were certain standards as to how much rat poison you were allowed to have. It was well known that this would kill a small percentage of babies, but it was thought to be a reasonable trad…

What's the point of even adding rat poison in baby formula? What does that accomplish?

My understanding was that it's while it is in bulk storage in warehouses. It keeps the rat population down. I've been trying to find evidence that I'm correct about this and like another commenter has posted, it may be that I'm confusing the Morinaga problems with Nestle. However, I was sure I heard about Nestle before I heard about Morinaga, but... My memory isn't the greatest :-(

Re: The Day AppGet Died

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post #162

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Not to me, but to some people, definitely. I was about to hire a guy and discussing him with the president, it came up that he was into ASICs for crypto mining (years before it was a big thing)... president didn’t like it, figured the guy to be a get rich quick type and through his direction we passed over hiring him. Turns out in this case, it was a good call, but right or wrong it was enough to push the guy back in…

You passed up a guy that had an interest outside your business and that was extremely technical? I can understand the justifications for culture fit, however, to me it sounds like you passed over someone because he was ambitious outside of work. That's fine if that's your culture, but you should consider that as a red flag.

>> you passed over someone because he was ambitious outside of work

Many see that as a sign that they won't be 100% focused on the task at hand.

Re: The Day AppGet Died

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> "apt-get" is the classic tool for Windows Subsystem for Linux APT is the classic tool for debian-like Linux distributions. FTFY

Get used to it, this is going to be the bulk of the "Linux" users from now on. Edit: Imo not a bad thing, it's just how it is. A lot of people will learn (of) Linux through WSL. Linux as a runtime.

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Re: The Day AppGet Died

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I know this might be unpopular with OSS idealists, but I wonder if it might be time for a new license, or indeed if there are already (small 'o') open source licenses that would help with this sort of things. What I'm thinking of is a license almost identical to the MIT and/or Apache 2.0 license, but with a clause that prohibits mega-corps from wholesale rebranding and using your code. I have a few OSS projects mysel…

Wouldn’t that be GPL?

Re: The Day AppGet Died

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post #343

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To get your article pre-written and ready to publish the moment embargo lifts. As opposed to the other tech bloggers who will have a scramble to write it after hearing about it with the rest of the world

thanks, that explains it. seems trivial though, but I'm not a tech blogger.

First to post gets referenced (more importantly: linked to) in all of those scrambling blogs :)

Re: The Day AppGet Died

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Ah yes. The new Microsoft, same as the old Microsoft. I am really sorry this happened to you. On the scale of Microsoft, or even on the scale of what they're putting into this effort, it would have cost approximately nothing to give you an "acquisition" you would have been happy with. If the job didn't work out, they could have given you a fat consulting contract for a year or two. Or they just could have written you…

>Ah yes. The new Microsoft, same as the old Microsoft. I wouldn't say that. It's a big company thing.

Saying that it’s just “a big company thing” is giving Microsoft a pass here. Look at their recent PR: wanting to embrace the developer community [1], their love of open source [2], etc. While AppGet may be an isolated story, I’m inclined to believe that MSFT is simply acting they way they’ve always have — by embracing, by extending, and by extinguishing.

1. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/micro...

2. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/18/21262103/microsoft-open-s...

Re: The Day AppGet Died

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post #264
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Author here, Because it's sure to come up here is a comment I wrote on Reddit that clarifies somethings, I haven't updated the original article since I'm not sure what the etiquette for updating a highly shared article is. ------ Code being copied isn't an issue. I knew full well what it meant to release something opensource and I don't regret it one bit. What was copied with no credit is the foundation of the projec…

Calling it "WinGet" was the real punch in the gut. Does Microsoft select for assholes or something? There's a thousand other package manager names [1] in the wild and they chose that one. So much for "developers, developers, developers"... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_package_manag...

I would think that their old system of stack ranking would have had that selection impact. It has been gone for a long time but could it have had a lasting impact on company culture by who was being kept and who was promoted into positions that are responsible for the culture today? I don't think such a thought is unreasonable.

Re: The Day AppGet Died

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post #91

There are parts of Microsoft that understand open source. Most parts of the Windows team ain’t that (exceptions apply). Reading this saddens me a lot as he clearly got screwed. But this is why any project with momentum should consider growing its community and maybe forming a foundation. For example, Homebrew and its community/infrastructure is better than and bigger than anything Apple could ever do (and we know how…

Nobody at Microsoft understands open source. The people who pretend to understand are just glorified sales people pretending to be developers promoting every new Microsoft product regardless how shit it is or how much better other competing products are (you know who these sales people are). Microsoft loves OSS as much as they are able to control it. They are like an abusive partner who "love you" for as long as they…

>Nobody at Microsoft understands open source.

Seriously? extreme statement even before first dot?

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