Latency is super important.... High latency is one of the largest problems with modern software. But what about transcription accuracy? I mainly use Android but also use an iPhone.... I have found transcription accuracy is so much higher on my iPhone then Android. I pulled out my old BlackBerry (Android) when I sent my Android phone in for repair recently. The voice transcription via blackberry's keyboard is hands do…
Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
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Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#62In case anyone didn't notice, this is comparing Gboard (Google's virtual keyboard) on iOS versus Android. It's NOT comparing Apple's voice recognition tech with Google's.
If it's the former this is less interesting except for the observation that speed of conversion really is valuable.
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#63In case anyone didn't notice, this is comparing Gboard (Google's virtual keyboard) on iOS versus Android. It's NOT comparing Apple's voice recognition tech with Google's.
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#64Well the iPhone is doing this online. While Pixel is doing it offline. Which is why the latency difference. ( Specific to English only, some languages still requires connection on Pixel ) I think dictation on iPhone is good enough, at least 10 times better than pre iPhone / Machine learning era. But it is also not as good as google. Partly because Google has more Data and started research way earlier, and partly beca…
That just makes it even worse! Look how much better the Pixel is doing on accuracy too. It's almost flawless while the iPhone, despite the advantage of offline processing, is getting maybe 10% wrong and writing complete nonsense words in there. Who is the hell is "Poor Michael Geer"? (for clarity, I'm an iPhone user and won't be switching because privacy, but this makes me jealous)
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#65There are already some novel applications of this. It is extremely useful to use Google's screening service for unknown numbers that might be a call I'm expecting from a new number. I can't recall the last time I actually listened to a voicemail. I know that at least voicemail transcription works elsewhere, and I can't speak to how well, but I do know that on the Pixel, transcription is really quite impressively accu…
Is voicemail popularity some US thing? I actually don't know anybody who uses it.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the alternative is Android, which is very difficult to de-Google. Even if you do de-Google you need to open yourself up to a swath of security concerns. Why would I trust some internet account that is giving me a binary that compromises my phone for me? Should I trust that it will only do what they say it will do because they are a good person? Would they have nothing to gain for having complete control of my…
iOS having better privacy is a myth. iOS sends your location to Apple every time any the GPS is used, and you can't turn it off. You cannot install apps on your phone without telling Apple which apps they are, and if you want to develop your own apps for your device without having to reinstall weekly, you have to hand over payment information. Stock Android devices from nearly any vendor do not suffer from these prob…
The thing people usually mean by privacy is “security of personal data and metadata”—i.e. being able to use your phone to break the (perhaps unjust) law, without a state actor being able to then prove you broke the law by forensically analyzing your phone.
Phones already leak a lot of circumstantial forensic evidence just by being phones. They talk to cell towers, for instance. So there’s a certain level of information leakage you’re accepting by doing something private on a phone in the first place.
The point of choosing one phone over another, for its privacy, should be to secure the phone in all the other ways—to prevent any information from leaking that can be prevented from leaking while retaining the functionality of the phone.
In that regard, iOS is usually considered the winner.
(Also, iOS is frequently considered the winner just by the fact that Apple devices can’t be interfered with by OEMs at the behest of state actors; in est, the OEM is always Apple, and so the only applicable state actor is the US. If I’m e.g. a Canadian diplomat in China and my phone breaks, I’m not going to trust a Chinese-OEM Android phone, but I might be able to trust a phone I send a plainclothes gofer to buy me from a Chinese Apple Store.)
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is voicemail popularity some US thing? I actually don't know anybody who uses it.
I don’t expect voicemail from other human beings, but I do expect it from my bank, my doctor, the government, my landlord, my plumber, my child’s school, the repair shop my car is in, etc. For local in-person-visitsble companies, a phone call is still the #1 way they update you on things. And, as they make most of these update calls while everyone is at work, inevitably these calls all become voice messages.
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#69Some hackers have been trying to reuse Google's offline speech recognition models within other software toolkits, https://hackaday.io/project/164399-android-offline-speech-re... > Especially the offline part is very appealing to me, as it should to any privacy conscious mind. Unfortunately this speech recognizer is only available to Pixel owners at this time. Since GBoard uses TensorFlow Lite, and the blog post is al…
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#70QUESTION How hard, on a scale of 1 to impossible, how hard would it be for Apple, or someone else to just grab the model google is using from the pixel and reverse engineer it and steal all their years of research.
It would probably be easy for any on-device model. But it would be illegal
Or trained their own architecture with data sampled from the Google model?
is it "stealing" data, the architecture, the parameters, or the act of reverse engineering and productizing the knowledge?