Wow does anyone know why it’s slow on the iPhone?
Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
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Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#12I'm curious about the privacy policies behind both engines and their development. Google's gotten an advantage in many fields by simply trampling over user's rights. Apple has been more respectful of user rights, and that's kind of made life harder for them too.
If I recall, Apple’s speech recognition relies on their servers while Pixel is on device.
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#13Well the iPhone is doing this online. While Pixel is doing it offline. Which is why the latency difference. ( Specific to English only, some languages still requires connection on Pixel )
I think dictation on iPhone is good enough, at least 10 times better than pre iPhone / Machine learning era. But it is also not as good as google. Partly because Google has more Data and started research way earlier, and partly because this isn't a fundamental strength of Apple.
I am pretty sure Apple is working on Offline Dictation. If Google can do it with Snapdragon on a much smaller transistor budget, there is no reason why Apple cant do it with more transistor.
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#14Wow does anyone know why it’s slow on the iPhone?
iPhone is doing this online, sending data packet back to Apple.
Pixel is doing this completely offline.
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#15Latency matters a lot, and it's one of the least-appreciated aspects of UX design. I (accidentally) dropped my desktop Linux system into pure console mode the other day and realized how much FASTER it felt just because of the improvement in keyboard latency.
Some applications have noticeably better keyboard latency than others on my Linux system. Kitty, Emacs and Chromium beat most QT apps and Firefox by a mile. Also, latency is much better for me in Wayland than in (composited) X (sway vs i3). Not sure why that is.
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#16Well the iPhone is doing this online. While Pixel is doing it offline. Which is why the latency difference. ( Specific to English only, some languages still requires connection on Pixel ) I think dictation on iPhone is good enough, at least 10 times better than pre iPhone / Machine learning era. But it is also not as good as google. Partly because Google has more Data and started research way earlier, and partly beca…
That just makes it even worse!
Look how much better the Pixel is doing on accuracy too. It's almost flawless while the iPhone, despite the advantage of offline processing, is getting maybe 10% wrong and writing complete nonsense words in there. Who is the hell is "Poor Michael Geer"?
(for clarity, I'm an iPhone user and won't be switching because privacy, but this makes me jealous)
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#17Well the iPhone is doing this online. While Pixel is doing it offline. Which is why the latency difference. ( Specific to English only, some languages still requires connection on Pixel ) I think dictation on iPhone is good enough, at least 10 times better than pre iPhone / Machine learning era. But it is also not as good as google. Partly because Google has more Data and started research way earlier, and partly beca…
iOS can do offline speech recognition (for English at least). It is even available to apps as an API. The quality is not great.
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#18Twitter video is a mess. I can't read anything in this video
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#19There are already some novel applications of this. It is extremely useful to use Google's screening service for unknown numbers that might be a call I'm expecting from a new number. I can't recall the last time I actually listened to a voicemail. I know that at least voicemail transcription works elsewhere, and I can't speak to how well, but I do know that on the Pixel, transcription is really quite impressively accu…
My iPhone transcribes voicemails so slowly that most times it's faster and easier to just listen to it.
Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel
#20I'm curious about the privacy policies behind both engines and their development. Google's gotten an advantage in many fields by simply trampling over user's rights. Apple has been more respectful of user rights, and that's kind of made life harder for them too.
New Pixels (I think 3, but it may only be 4) have an inference chip of some form. All of this is done on-device. They ported this to older devices, but it's not as fast (but still offline).
The assistant is one place (probably only place) where Google has a better privacy story than most (including Apple). Notwithstanding the phone offline capabilities, you can tell the home devices (which use online transcription) "that was not for you" and they will delete what they heard.