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Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by chris_f »

simpss wrote: post #75
m-p-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there are so many nice features, like the !bangs search prefixes, and the ability to store and sync your preferences as a passphrase, without requiring an actual account. The dark scheme is also quite good.

the only gripe i have with DDG is missing 'site: "somewebsite.com"' option. Is there a way to achieve it? I mainly use it for '*.countrydomain' to get results for a specific country.

The 'site:' operator already works in DDG how you describe.

DDG is mostly Bing under the covers for organic results, so most of Bing's advanced [0] searches will work in DDG.

Edit: Interestingly enough I can't get the 'IP:' operator to work in either Bing or DDG.

[0] http://help.bing.microsoft.com/#apex/18/en-US/10001/-1

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by goblin89 »

npmaile wrote: post #114
typenil wrote: post #106

For anyone on the fence about using DuckDuckGo instead of Google, if you don't find what you're looking for, it's easy to revert to a Google search by typing "!google" with your query. DDG has improved a lot with time, so I almost never fall back to Google anymore. For some technical searches that DDG can't find, I find codeseek.com is better than both Google and DDG

if typing "!google" is too much of a hassle "!g" also works. you can also do pretty much any letter and it will search another service from bing to yahoo to images to maps to wikipedia to whatever.

I often use !hn in DuckDuckGo, which redirects to this website’s search.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

dgellow wrote: post #48
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #35

This is pretty much what we've been saying would happen since the day AMP was fire presented to the public. I really hope this AMP thing never becomes anything mainstream, it's an atrocious attempt at monopolizing the internet as a whole.

I believe it’s already mainstream :(

Yep. Google's defacto monopoly powers allows it to create standards and effectively force mainstream acceptance.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by viraptor »

zo1 wrote: post #51
chadlavi wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because it's a useful MITM attack on the internet

After they took away peoples' ability to MITM their own stuff by forcing HTTPS everywhere under the guise of privacy.

If you want to mitm yourself, nobody takes it away from you. Create your own CA, add it to the trusted list, setup your proxy with the keys, and mitm all you want.

You do get the benefit of https even on static sites though. Do you want every network you join to be able to inject any JS they want into pages you're viewing? Https solves that.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by projproj »

If you're looking for a decent replacement to images.google.com, I run https://canweimage.com. It gets results from Wikimedia Commons. There's also just https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page. I built canweimage because Wikimedia Commons used to be harder to navigate (once you searched, you then had to click through categories and subcategories to see image results). Looking at it just now, and that doesn't seem to be the case anymore!

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by AlexandrB »

ergothus wrote: post #33
clubsoda wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell me about it. Our company moved to it and its been horrible with any third party application or marketing pixel. My boss tried to warn VPs of AMP being a nuclear option. Instead of fixing the website they rather put a bandaid over it.

> Our company moved to it and its been horrible with any third party application or marketing pixel. Isn't that part of the point though? 3rd party marketing and tracking pixels are NOT things that improve the experience or performance for the visitor.

> 3rd party marketing and tracking pixels are NOT things that improve the experience or performance for the visitor.

But neither is AMP. This seems like a pure land grab to send more info to Google and less to other adtech companies.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by logicallee »

I Googled "how to turn off amp results" and the top article is a 2017 article[1] that lists some workarounds, such as using duckduckgo or installing DeAMPify, "an Android app that lets you bypass AMP links so you can always load the original link." As far as a first-party way to disable it, the article says:

>"Late last year [2016], Google said that it’s working to let users disable AMP in Google search, but there doesn’t seem to be any official kill switch yet. Meanwhile, you can use any of the above workarounds to get around Google AMP pages."

Can any Googler chime in on why it would take more than 4 years to figure out the code to turn off a feature like AMP for signed-in users who don't want it? I would have thought that this is something anyone could do in 20 minutes, but I do realize that Google has thousands of highly paid and experienced engineers so maybe there is something that takes a lot longer, that I didn't realize. Could you shed some insight on what makes this difficult?

[1] https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-google-amp-google-sear...

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by rantwasp »

kelvin0 wrote: post #130

Non-web coder here. I searched 'google amp', and I can't really understand what it's supposed to do? Can anyone explain what problem AMP is supposed solve, or what features it brings to the table?

https://amp.dev

It's supposedly a component framework. supposedly you can build web stuff faster and easier using it. In reality it looks like Google is using it a Trojan horse

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