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Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by grizzles »

pm90 wrote: post #153
habosa wrote: post #149

Disclaimer: I work on Firebase but I'm always speaking for myself on Hacker News. This looks really cool! Honestly I think the Firebase comparison may be throwing some people off here because this is a SQL-based system, which means there's a huge base of existing tools/techniques/knowledge to build from. I like any tool which makes it easier to build an app. It's 2020 and we still start every app like this: * Pick a…

Maybe I am an old fart, but what’s wrong with the steps you mention? What would your ideal sequence of steps be? If the answer is “just call an api to handle your data” sure that works for POCs/Small apps. But I’m a bit hesitant to put all my businesses data inside a proprietary data store that I don’t control and which isn’t collocated with my app (Ie every data store request makes a round trip to the google server…

My ideal would be sqlite in the back, sqlite in the browser, with a sync table that uses database triggers for managing a log of the normal tables.

I've written a few more thoughts here: https://github.com/ericbets/erics-designs/blob/master/funcdb...

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by kiwicopple »

risyachka wrote: post #209

It hardly compares to Firebase - their main selling points is super quick to start, easy to use, very cheap, lots of integrations. Unfortunately, all alternatives to Firebase, even if not counting the large lack of features, are way more expensive, and lack many integrations, especially mobile.

This was posted a bit early (it wasn't posted by us), but see my comments here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23320443

tldr: > We've been building furiously since January but (not surprisingly) we haven't yet reached feature parity. But we will :)

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by dandare »

kiwicopple wrote: post #186
habosa wrote: post #149

Disclaimer: I work on Firebase but I'm always speaking for myself on Hacker News. This looks really cool! Honestly I think the Firebase comparison may be throwing some people off here because this is a SQL-based system, which means there's a huge base of existing tools/techniques/knowledge to build from. I like any tool which makes it easier to build an app. It's 2020 and we still start every app like this: * Pick a…

> Honestly I think the Firebase comparison may be throwing some people off here because this is a SQL-based system You're correct - we're building on top of Postgres so it's not a perfect comparison. And we're a bit early to even make it a fair claim. I'm glad the crowd here has been so receptive. We were planning of launching in September, but it must have been picked up somewhere on the internet (thanks @habosa)

Hi, do you plan to be a full BaaS? With Authentication, email confirmations, push notification etc?

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by midrus »

grizzles wrote: post #211
pm90 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I am an old fart, but what’s wrong with the steps you mention? What would your ideal sequence of steps be? If the answer is “just call an api to handle your data” sure that works for POCs/Small apps. But I’m a bit hesitant to put all my businesses data inside a proprietary data store that I don’t control and which isn’t collocated with my app (Ie every data store request makes a round trip to the google server…

My ideal would be sqlite in the back, sqlite in the browser, with a sync table that uses database triggers for managing a log of the normal tables. I've written a few more thoughts here: https://github.com/ericbets/erics-designs/blob/master/funcdb...

That's pretty close to the pouchdb + (couchdb|cloudant) combo...

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by lukeramsden »

cwhiz wrote: post #210
lukeramsden wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon seem to be working on bringing Amplify up to the same standard as Firebase, and it's certainly getting there, so in the near-future there may be quite a few alternatives.

I find the overall Amplify offering to be a mess. The hosting and authentication works pretty well but the rest of it just feels like they put duct tape in front of a bunch of existing AWS services. I’ve found Hasura+Cognito+S3 as the closest equivalent to Firebase. It’s not as neatly wrapped up into a single product but it’s pretty close.

Yes I completely agree actually, I've been using Amplify to prototype UI quite well but my plan is to switch to using Postgraphile (or maybe Hasura, I haven't decided yet) + Cognito to replace the backend - primarily so I can use a relational database that isn't Aurora Serverless. I do feel like they've made good progress on the project in recent months, but it really needs another good year of work on it before I'd consider it cohesive enough to stick with.

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by theturtletalks »

bawana wrote: post #203
nicoburns wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, when they tout the product as free or cheap, and then only later up the pricing by 10x, once people have built their business around the older pricing model. That's a problem.

The pseudo-democratic silicon valley model of freemium is the problem. Seducing you into using something with the word 'free' but then trapping you with a changing API and cost structure. They should be up front with the realization that our ability to pay THEM is not commensurate with use by OUR users. Fees should based on OUR revenue, not usage.

That's why I always look for an open-source alternative before using a free tier app. The free tiers are subsidized by paid ones so eventually users will have to pay up. Will be adding Supbase to https://opensource.builders.

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by nojvek »

1. I liked that the nodejs example shown here uses async await syntax. I don’t get why people still put callback hell examples in 2020.

2. What I really like about firebase is firestore is a scale to zero database. It doesn’t cost me anything if I have tiny amount of data and low frequency of users. This lets me spin up lots of small sites at no cost. With cloud run I have a real api server that also scales to zero. My last GCP bill was 3 cents. And yes, GCP was dumb enough to actually charge my credit card for that. Not sure why they don’t have a $1 minimum.

But I like what I’m seeing as supabase’s pitch.

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Post by kiwicopple »

dandare wrote: post #214
kiwicopple wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Honestly I think the Firebase comparison may be throwing some people off here because this is a SQL-based system You're correct - we're building on top of Postgres so it's not a perfect comparison. And we're a bit early to even make it a fair claim. I'm glad the crowd here has been so receptive. We were planning of launching in September, but it must have been picked up somewhere on the internet (thanks @habosa)

Hi, do you plan to be a full BaaS? With Authentication, email confirmations, push notification etc?

Yes! We'll let the customers drive the priorities. Right now Authentication is our #1 focus
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