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Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

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Yeah, no. I already deleted my account and I'm not going back. I realise the type of candidate they cater towards would find jobs at companies I wouldn't really want to work at anyway. I'm ashamed that younger me fell for this in the first place.

What is the alternative you will use going forward? Another job site?

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The negativity towards to original announcement of making profiles public was deserved. For me, the negativity towards the CEO's apology and cancelling the feature is not. Everyone makes mistakes and if nobody would be willing to look past that, then we'd never get anywhere.

At this point in time it doesn't matter if there is an apology or not. Like above mentioned, some would have got laid-off or for some their intentions of job search is revealed. This is much worst of an effect that an apology would do any good. He apologized so what. It is good but damage is done. Can anything be about it ?

Since they reversed before making the information pubilc, was damage really done?

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

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Good on them to admit they were wrong and changing course. I wish there was less "oh, but they only did it because of the outrage" and "oh, they'll just sneak it back in later". They messed up, they sought to rectify it. Good job.

I’m sure it wasn’t helped by the CEO coming in and defending the decision. But he’s taken the blame and apologized himself, and he’s here talking about what went wrong and what he was thinking. It’s not gonna convince everyone, but to me, that’s an apology.

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

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I received the email today, then went to check my triplebyte profile. On visibility settings, I saw the default public visibility is still ON. Probably they are cancelling this feature anyway, but still showing showing ON in public visibility seems like another messed up!

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

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post #73

Why are you under such tremendous pressure? It is this a desperate move of a company finally going out of business or a result of an extreme pressure from the vc side? Who has accessed the data already? Not only directly but indirectly as well? Have you received any compensation or settled any transactions by exposing the data?

They didn’t expose any data. The feature wasn’t live yet.

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

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This is a very good apology. Yes, it is possible that this is merely the perfunctory apology TripleByte's users were undoubtedly due. It is possible it is entirely inauthentic, a mere artifice for damage control from a reputationally maimed business. But it is also possible that, like all people, the CEO seriously screwed up. There were some bad premises, some bad motives, some bad confirmation bias at play here. Tha…

I'm not sure it matters. TripleByte is asking for super-sensitive information. 10 years down the line, Ammon won't be CEO anymore. No matter how much of a jerk Ammon is, I'm willing to trust-and-verify, so long as they get the and-verify part right. No matter how great a guy Ammon is, I'm not willing to trust without the and-verify part. He might get fired tomorrow, and Steve Ballmer or Carly Fiorina might get brough…

The apology definitely sounds honest, but why are we putting all our data in one place and then trusting someone to make the "right decisions" regarding it?

I believe society should stop centralizing its data, votes, money, etc. in the hands of a few. This decade we can work to change that.

No matter how great a guy Ammon is, I'm not willing to trust without the and-verify part. He might get fired tomorrow, and Steve Ballmer or Carly Fiorina might get brought in. It might go under, and get sold to Oath. There's a ton of possibilities.

Exactly. But when I say this, people often respond to me "no, this is the perfect example of a company that should be centralized" followed by justifications and downvotes. Decentralization is still as uncomfortable as the civil rights movement in the 50s, for many people.

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My angel.co and LinkedIn are already public, why not Triplebyte too Because you opted in to creating those profiles and the information they contain, and made them public. You opted in .

It was wrong not to make it opt in but not deserving of the level of hate they’re getting for the decision. The big tech companies do things every day that are much more damaging to your privacy and they don’t send you an email telling you. LinkedIn’s spam marketing in the early days was downright scandalous. I’ve always found Triplebyte open and insightful and their response shows they’re receptive to feedback, whic…

If company is upfront and listens, any feature they will release or change will be done considering the privacy and security. You give your customer power and not take it away from them. You chose what you do about your data and no one else can make that decision on behalf of you

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

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... (continuation of Triplebyte email) Rather than safeguarding the fact that you are or were job searching, we threatened exposure. Current employers might retaliate if they saw that you were job searching. You did not expect that any personal information you’d given us, in the context of a private, secure job search, would be used publicly without your explicit consent. I sincerely apologize. It was my failure. So,…

I'm going to inline this text into the top post so that everyone can read it. (Edit: that's done, and I deleted "continued in comments" - normally I'd ask for permission first, but in this case it seemed better not to wait.) You probably split the post up this way because the software told you the text was too long. Tip for the future: you can get around that by clicking 'edit' and adding the rest later. Don't tell a…

correct, and thanks, i'll keep it for myself :)

Re: Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology

#100
post #78

One of two things happened: 1. Triplebyte attempted a big move against LinkedIn, tried to ease the blow to users by dumping on a Friday before memorial day weekend 2. Triplebyte, the company built around helping people find jobs, truthfully didn't understand that people might have concerns about their current companies knowing they are job-hunting It's pretty obvious it's #1, and that opt-out rather than opt-in was t…

I'd say it was both. I wanted to move against LinkedIn profiles, I thought that opt-out was the way to get critical mass, and I screwed up and did not realize how large a privacy violation this was.

Good on you for doing this- I think the apology is great and shows TripleByte listens to feedback. I also think that taking on LinkedIn could be amazing for the broader ecosystem- LinkedIn is terrible, and anything competing against them would be awesome, so I wish you luck.
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