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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#563
This is awful... And really hard to understand how they could expect this to go well - it seems like Triplebyte just doesn’t understand engineers and engineering culture.

I expect a fully anonymous service like interviewing.io to get a lot more signups after this fiasco.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#564
I have found that Triplebyte's emails are kind of spammy because they send so many. Before this point that made me a bit on edge. Now I very glad I didn't have time to finish any of those quizzes and will definitely not be using the product. I also believe that any employer who looks at any solid resume would know that the candidate knows how to find the minimum value in an array (an example question), so I could never understand why asking questions like that was adding any value and it made me skeptical.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Hey everyone. Happy to answer any questions about this. Basically, we think that LinkedIn profiles don't do a good job of showing engineering skill (especially for self-taught people or people from non-traditional backgrounds). I'm excited to just build better support for showing side projects and GitHub contributions. LinkedIn profiles have become the default engineering resume (despite the fact that most engineers…

Others have addressed the obvious privacy issues, so let me address your logic on the business side of things. I apologize in advance for the tone, but your move with exposing profiles made me angry. Good thing my TB profile is fake (and performs worse than my actual, real life resume despite all the embellishments) 1) There is no lock in - I can move on and off LI whenever I want, and have. I've exported my data and…

"used it to create my own resume site with analytics that I send out to companies. I can see who viewed my CV, when, and whether or not they actually read through it or bounced immediately"

I'd be super interested to learn more about how you did that.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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First off, thanks again for taking the time to speak with us on HN. I think you’re missing/avoiding the issue that people might want to hide the very fact that they have a Triplebyte account at all. It implies that they have job hunted in the last 5 or so years, and someone who’s been at a single company for longer than that might not want that information to be available. I work at Google, and I can tell you as a fa…

Google did something similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Buzz#Privacy

The disaster that was Google Buzz has left a thick bureaucratic scar tissue designed to prevent something like that from happening again.

Here’s an old article about it: https://money.cnn.com/2012/01/26/technology/google_privacy/i...

I suspect TripleByte is about to learn some similar lessons.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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> those comments don't get flagged out of future HN search results. Triplebyte is a YC company and HN is a YC site, so economic interests are aligned with nuking highly critical comments

That's a natural assumption, but if you think a step further it's not hard to see why it's false: you shouldn't optimize for local optima, especially if doing that would ruin your global optimum. When you have a goose that lays golden eggs, don't risk the goose for an egg. YC's economic interest in HN is having it be a happy, thriving community. That dominates all other considerations put together. A fast way to ruin…

It's clear to see that you (all) have kept HN as good as it is over all these years, not for cynical economic reasons, but because it's right. It's right for the HN community and, given HN's somewhat unique position, maybe we can even say it's right for the larger society.

I'm sure that over the years there have been countless opportunities to ruin the community for short term gain, and because the right decisions were made, the community will in most cases never know or appreciate the choice. The only evidence is that HN is still here, and hasn't been trampled down by the armies of mammon even when so many other internet communities have been.

Sometimes you have to protect a goose, even at cost, just because it's a happy goose and it's alive.

It's rare in a place where so many think they are being hard-nosed little economists (though actually merely joining the chorus of short-sighted armchair bean-counters) to admit that you did something without needing any economic justification.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#568
>Is it confidential? Yes. We will not share any information about you with companies until you’re ready. We will also ask you for companies to block in case your current or past employers are on our platform.

Hmmm think they're going to need to change up their homepage. This doesn't seem very accurate at all anymore.

Actually, keeping this on now even after they've made this decision seems pretty disingenuous.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Others have addressed the obvious privacy issues, so let me address your logic on the business side of things. I apologize in advance for the tone, but your move with exposing profiles made me angry. Good thing my TB profile is fake (and performs worse than my actual, real life resume despite all the embellishments) 1) There is no lock in - I can move on and off LI whenever I want, and have. I've exported my data and…

"used it to create my own resume site with analytics that I send out to companies. I can see who viewed my CV, when, and whether or not they actually read through it or bounced immediately" I'd be super interested to learn more about how you did that.

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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#570
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To be honest, the reason I don't do it is fear. Normally I'd say "we" in a sentence like that, but in this case the fear is mine. Maybe such a device would satisfy everyone's curiosity and make the community as happy as a gently tickled baby. Users would raise questions, other users would helpfully look up what happened in the moderation log, and still other helpful users would chime in with past examples of how we d…

I think that if the moderation becomes public, it becomes a target and not an effective way to measure behavior. People will try to game the ways they interact with moderators. They'll start to argue and lawyer you against yourself -- "you didn't demote this post but you demoted mine". I think any of us who have done user moderation for more than a month has seen this kind of behavior. Transparency is great in public…

Wow, those are great points and I hope it's ok if I plunder them for future discussions.

I completely agree about wanting to stay on the human side of formal vs. human.

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