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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by icedchai »

treis wrote: post #409
icedchai wrote: post #315

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Triplebyte can just forward those fines to the circular file. There is no practical method of enforcement unless they have a physical EU presence.

That's not correct. You can pursue damages outside of your jurisdiction through a process called "domestication". Generally speaking US courts will enforce judgements from other countries with a legitimate legal system.

Sure, they "can." But has it ever happened with GDPR? My gut tells me they'll direct their efforts towards more critical matters.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by 1cvmask »

erulabs wrote: post #509
dang wrote: post #462

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That's a natural assumption, but if you think a step further it's not hard to see why it's false: you shouldn't optimize for local optima, especially if doing that would ruin your global optimum. When you have a goose that lays golden eggs, don't risk the goose for an egg. YC's economic interest in HN is having it be a happy, thriving community. That dominates all other considerations put together. A fast way to ruin…

While I have a handful of YC friends and certainly admire a lot of the YC higher-ups, I will say for me and my co-founder, it was probably more HN that caused us to apply to YCS19 than anything else. Meeting PG/PB was icing on the cake, not the impetus. Thanks for all your hard work on HN - it's a really wonderful piece of the net!

You need to get a new SSL certificate for erulabs.com

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by thaumasiotes »

ebertucc wrote: post #357
Zekio wrote: post #339

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Account removal should be just as easy as it was to sign up

I agree that it should be just as easy to suspend your account as it was to sign up, but irretrievable deletion should be harder. Companies ideally want to stop fraud at both ends, but I would be more upset if, for example, my Airbnb account were fraudulently deleted than if someone fraudulently made one in my name. Granted, deletion requires access to the account in question, so maybe that's enough of a hurdle alrea…

> Granted, deletion requires access to the account in question, so maybe that's enough of a hurdle already? In that sense it's already harder to delete than create.

I tend to agree that that is enough of an additional hurdle, but note that it conflicts with

> I agree that it should be just as easy to suspend your account as it was to sign up, but irretrievable deletion should be harder.

It's definitely not appropriate for any unauthenticated person to be allowed to suspend an account. You need the same hurdle on suspension.

I think it would be reasonable to have a grace period between the deletion request and the actual deletion, during which the account was retrievable.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by erulabs »

1cvmask wrote: post #512
erulabs wrote: post #509

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I have a handful of YC friends and certainly admire a lot of the YC higher-ups, I will say for me and my co-founder, it was probably more HN that caused us to apply to YCS19 than anything else. Meeting PG/PB was icing on the cake, not the impetus. Thanks for all your hard work on HN - it's a really wonderful piece of the net!

You need to get a new SSL certificate for erulabs.com

Thanks for the reminder!!

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by alasdair_ »

bit_logic wrote: post #420

This behavior from Triplebyte is unacceptable. If you live in California, there is CCPA now with financial penalties for companies that don’t comply. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Consumer_Privacy_Ac... It’s similar to Europe’s GDPR. CCPA allows sending a deletion request and they will be fined if they don’t comply. Looking at their privacy page: https://triplebyte.com/privacy It mentions these options for…

They also block their deletion link with recaptcha, just to add some additional friction.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by thaumasiotes »

tfehring wrote: post #346
pmiller2 wrote: post #198

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Companies that are worth a shit don't retaliate against people for looking at other opportunities. That's precisely why your Tinder example is not just off base, it's wrong. Another way to look at it: either you're a replaceable cog, or you're essential to running the business. If you're essential, they're going to do whatever they can to keep you. If you're replaceable, they probably don't care that much whether you…

Being fired because you're perceived to be looking for other jobs probably isn't a realistic concern. But being passed up for promotions or missing out on desirable opportunities because you're perceived to be looking for other jobs is a very real possibility, even if you're not easily replaceable. The Tinder analogy is imperfect because of that, but it's still a good illustration of how just the existence of a profi…

> Being fired because you're perceived to be looking for other jobs probably isn't a realistic concern.

It definitely is.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jiofih »

ss3000 wrote: post #416
nabilhat wrote: post #343

Assume for a moment I'm a bad-faith, nosy employer who reads HN on a Saturday morning. All it takes for me to match up my little stack of current employee's resumes is a person's city of residence, skills, and employment dates. If I'm that kind of employer, that's enough to raise my red flags. If prior employers are named outright, that's a 100% ID. If employment dates are paired with employment location, that's a 10…

At the moment of writing I had to go to page 3 of the comments to find the CEO's response: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23280120 Piggybacking on this comment and linking here so people can more easily see how completely tone-deaf it was. More from his comment history here: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ammon

That’s because people use downvotes as disagreement, when they should be upvoting to make sure it stays visible.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by thaumasiotes »

kerkeslager wrote: post #319
ammon wrote: post #73

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Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

I don't want a public profile of any kind on your website. There isn't a spin you're going to be able to put on this that's going to change that what you're doing here is diametrically opposed to my goals. You knew that, which is why you tried to sneak it past everyone. The problem isn't that people think what you're doing is unethical. The problem is that what you are doing actually is unethical.

> The problem isn't that people think what you're doing is unethical. The problem is that what you are doing actually is unethical.

In order for this to hold, there would have to be objective ethical claims which were independent of what people thought about ethics.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by alasdair_ »

ammon wrote: post #10

Hey everyone. Happy to answer any questions about this. Basically, we think that LinkedIn profiles don't do a good job of showing engineering skill (especially for self-taught people or people from non-traditional backgrounds). I'm excited to just build better support for showing side projects and GitHub contributions. LinkedIn profiles have become the default engineering resume (despite the fact that most engineers…

You just lost any trust and goodwill that Triplebyte built up with myself or any of my engineer friends.

Here is that problem: people gave you their data because you told them that you would make it available to companies that were NOT our current employers or the general public. None of us agreed to let you post the fact that we were actively seeking employment.

You betrayed our trust and are using data none of us agreed you could use in the way you are using it.

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