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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by crankylinuxuser »

jacquesm wrote: post #152
ammon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really sorry that you think this is awful. Certainly do opt-out. I think that taking on LinkedIn and creating a better engineering resume is a good thing to do. I can assure you that the Friday announcement is a result of our team grinding to hit a planned release week, not anything other than that (I would have loved to get this out earlier in the week)

> Really sorry that you think this is awful. Classic non-apology apology. You should not be sorry that he thinks it is awful, you should be sorry that it is awful . Nobody cares about how much work you put into what amounts to an illegal disclosure of personal data.

Indeed. That's on par with:

"I'm sorry you're an idiot."

Not an apology, an insult, and feigning to be apologizing about you (which is doubly insulting).

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by pmiller2 »

haram_masala wrote: post #470
pmiller2 wrote: post #387

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What if I have? How does that imply anything other than that I took a test?

After reading your various comments, I have to ask if you have any relationship with Triplebyte and/or its founders beyond merely using the service. And yes, I would greatly appreciate an answer to this.

I do not, other than having interviewed with them. For the record, I would not care to repeat the experience, either. I found the process unnecessarily stressful and not worth the time investment.

Nonetheless, I don’t find very much wrong with what they do, in general, or what they’ve done here. Do you think because I have a dissenting opinion, I must necessarily be some kind of shill. Come out and say it, if so.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by ganstyles »

dang wrote: post #466
ganstyles wrote: post #427

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This thread rose to the top group of the front page last night (you can see I posted here then, I happened to see it). Then it sunk quickly and disappeared. I was a little dismayed because the cynic in me was thinking along the lines of it being removed for being antithetical to YC company success. I went to bed. To my surprise, it was back up near the top this morning with almost a thousand votes and hundreds of com…

It fell because of a software penalty called the flamewar detector. We review posts that get that penalty because there are often false positives. I saw it on the list last night and restored it ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23280488 ). That was the only action any moderator took on the post. I'm glad I saw it quickly enough, because there would have been a nightmare of a flamewar about us 'suppressing' the…

Yeah, thanks for the response. I saw you mention this downthread after you made the comment. Thanks for the work you do moderating this place.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by cactus2093 »

josephg wrote: post #237
ORioN63 wrote: post #225

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support@triplebyte.com is probably for clients. Source: Candidate, has a very specific marketing meaning, of you being the product.

There’s a lot of things to dislike about triplebyte’s behaviour here, but this particular criticism isn’t fair. I’ve worked at 3 different companies in the hiring space across two continents and “candidate” is the internal term they all ended up using internally for people seeking jobs. “Applicant” is too vague and “job seeker” is long and hard to scan (and it’s too similar at a glance to “job”, which is also not oft…

I don't think the parent comment was complaining about the nomenclature. I interpreted it as pointing out that in any hiring activity, the candidate/applicant/whatever is the product. A company pays a recruiting service in exchange for hiring a candidate.

(Of course, the candidate also receives value because presumably they are looking for a job and get one in this transaction. But the whole "you are the product" trope always ignores the fact that the "product" person is receiving value in the transaction).

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by haram_masala »

pmiller2 wrote: post #472
haram_masala wrote: post #470

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After reading your various comments, I have to ask if you have any relationship with Triplebyte and/or its founders beyond merely using the service. And yes, I would greatly appreciate an answer to this.

I do not, other than having interviewed with them. For the record, I would not care to repeat the experience, either. I found the process unnecessarily stressful and not worth the time investment. Nonetheless, I don’t find very much wrong with what they do, in general, or what they’ve done here. Do you think because I have a dissenting opinion, I must necessarily be some kind of shill. Come out and say it, if so.

I didn’t know one way or the other, which is why I asked. Perhaps the unspoken bias I’m putting on display is the assumption that no independent observer could possibly think their actions were ethical.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by errantspark »

Judgmentality wrote: post #437
errantspark wrote: post #192

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A lot of people go through YC and while their filter is better than most I assure you this is hardly the most shockingly stupid thing I've seen someone in YC do, ever heard of Meta? That was a dumpster fire from start to finish.

Yeah, but one of the TripleByte founders used to be a YC partner, so it's a little different.

Oooooh, fair enough, I didn't realize that.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by dang »

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #443
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #360

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> those comments don't get flagged out of future HN search results. Triplebyte is a YC company and HN is a YC site, so economic interests are aligned with nuking highly critical comments

Wouldn't be the first time HN/automoderation/mods have removed 'critical to YC business interests'. Happened to me with the Thalmic Myo, when I open source forced them to open their platform. HackADay also notes that HN autohid my article. https://hackaday.com/2014/11/18/thalmic-labs-shuts-down-free... HaD wasn't hidden.. Thalmic was. Dang has usually responded with noncommital responses like they never do that. But…

I feel like if someone is still upset about a case like this 6 years later, we should probably try to figure out why and see what we can do to settle the matter. But HN has had 15M posts since then and I have zero memory of it. Actually I probably have zero memory of HN from 2 days ago. Can you link to the relevant post(s)?

I looked at that hackaday.com page. It says this: "Quick aside, but if you want to see how nearly every form of media is crooked, try submitting this to Hacker News and look at the Thalmic investors. Edit: don’t bother, we’re blacklisted or something."...but is also linkless. Usually when people make dudgeonly claims but conspicuously omit links, it's because what actually happened doesn't match what they say.

Re "dang has usually responded with noncommital responses": I try to be commital. There is little to be gained by not, since we try not to do things that aren't defensible to the community in the first place. If you have any tips to offer for increased commitalness, I'd like to hear them.

Edit: I just noticed this bit: "further requests for being transparent has fallen on deaf ears". When? That doesn't sound like us.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by JoshuaDavid »

juandazapata wrote: post #288
aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

Just a reminder that most of these companies never really delete your account, they simply deactivate it, while keeping all your data. You can also update your profile info and fill it with gibberish.

> Just a reminder that most of these companies never really delete your account

Not if you request account deletion under CCPA. Or at least not if they're smart.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by seebs »

pmiller2 wrote: post #387
reitzensteinm wrote: post #224

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Not necessarily. But what if you didn't have one yesterday, but you do have one today? What if you have only worked for one employer since TripleByte was founded (2015)? What if the only place you've worked is a startup of which you're a cofounder? If you can't think of a way in which a privacy leak can have consequences, that doesn't mean there aren't any.

What if I have? How does that imply anything other than that I took a test?

In the sense of a logical implication which follows with full logical necessity: it doesn't.

In the sense of a likely reason for someone to draw an inference: Most people do not specifically seek out excuses to take tests, and do so only because they want something that the test provides them with, such as access to a job-hunting platform. Most people who want access to a job-hunting platform want it because they are job-hunting or plan to be soon.

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