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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by netsharc » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:17 AM UTC

gherig4 wrote: post #44

ammon wrote: post #10

Hey everyone. Happy to answer any questions about this. Basically, we think that LinkedIn profiles don't do a good job of showing engineering skill (especially for self-taught people or people from non-traditional backgrounds). I'm excited to just build better support for showing side projects and GitHub contributions. LinkedIn profiles have become the default engineering resume (despite the fact that most engineers…

Lock-in to your platform sounds even worse than LinkedIn. How long before we all get an apology email, "Upon careful reconsideration...", 72 hours?

It'll be "We heard our community's feedback.". "Many of you responded passionately to our announcement.".

God damn corporate spin pretending nothing bad ever happens..

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by neilv » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:20 AM UTC

Considering this apparent questionable behavior, and the dark patterns people are mentioning on HN... was the original business entirely legitimate?

I've found the currently en vogue leetcode grinding and whiteboard hazings to be questionable, and I'm wondering this scandal will prompt anyone to reconsider the whole sketchy institution of software developer "tech tests".

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by RandomBacon » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:26 AM UTC

ammon wrote: post #67

yaacov wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for coming to answer questions here even though you’re likely to get dragged through the mud for this decision. FWIW, I agree with other commenters that this is a betrayal of trust but I don’t have anything original to add.

Well, sorry that you feel this way. I don't agree right now (clearly). But I'll certainly take this seriously and think more about it/listen to feedback. We're talking about relatively basic profiles, to give us the canvas to launch public achievement badges (that we hope allow us to better help people who don't have traditional credentials). My view, building this, is that we're not displaying anything more private…

I've read several of your, "I'm sorry you..."

How about an "I'm sorry I..."

Take responsibility for your own actions.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by reitzensteinm » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:32 AM UTC

pmiller2 wrote: post #195

withdavidli wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The type of relationship is different, but the example still holds. Having a profile at all can and likely will be viewed as an indicator of intention to leave the current relationship for a new relationship. This was how it was viewed having a resume profile on sites like Monster and CareerBuilder before LinkedIn made it the norm to have a public resume. Time frame is also very important. Example, a user has been wi…

I have a TripleByte profile. Am I job hunting? This is not a hypothetical. I really do have a profile.

Not necessarily.

But what if you didn't have one yesterday, but you do have one today? What if you have only worked for one employer since TripleByte was founded (2015)? What if the only place you've worked is a startup of which you're a cofounder?

If you can't think of a way in which a privacy leak can have consequences, that doesn't mean there aren't any.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by ORioN63 » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:36 AM UTC

mkagenius wrote: post #155

grizzles wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like emailing candidate.support@triplebyte.com is the only way to delete your account.

> candidate.support@triplebyte.com Did they purposefully go out of the way to make this email address unguessable/non-standard/multi-word

support@triplebyte.com is probably for clients.

Source: Candidate, has a very specific marketing meaning, of you being the product.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by JshWright » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:40 AM UTC

pmiller2 wrote: post #161

wolfgang42 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just saw your edit. My emphasis continues to be on unexpected and short notice, with an added obscure (notice that you missed it too) and opt-out . I should not need to be prepared to jump at a moment’s notice any time someone decides they want to “accelerate [their] mission.” (And I am going to opt out—or, more likely, delete my account altogether—but that doesn’t mean I can’t also complain on the Internet.)

And, again, you care enough to complain on the internet about something that may not even be a problem, but not enough to do anything about it for anyone else, or even to find out if there's anything wrong in the first place. And, you would rather complain than simply ask what's going to be displayed. Your virtue signaling earns you no points here, not that I think it matters to you.

The whole point is that they shouldn't have to ask...

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by johnmarcus » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:44 AM UTC

Ooohh, I got lucky. After I evaluated the platform a few months ago I asked for my account to be deleted, something about the whole platform felt off. They don't measure so many of the most important success factors for good engineers.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by g_p » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:54 AM UTC

dirtydroog wrote: post #191

im3w1l wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Triplebyte is only targetting Americans afaik.

I'm a European in Europe and seem to have a triplebyte account

In which case, it sounds like at the moment they carry out a "data processing operation" to make your data public, you would have standing to make a formal complaint to your local data protection authority.

Article 18 restriction of processing can apply here. Art. 25 "Data protection by design and by default" would seem to be relevant as well. The section I alluded to above is the latter half of 25(2), saying "In particular, such measures shall ensure that by default personal data are not made accessible without the individual’s intervention to an indefinite number of natural persons."

There's also the question of whether their consent or other grounds of processing suffice, which likely wouldn't for making anything public, but Article 25 makes it clear enough anyway this is illegal.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by g_p » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:57 AM UTC

ratherbefuddled wrote: post #217

netsharc wrote: post #214

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I was reading about GDPR last week (since CouchSurfing was another company that turned scumbaggy and put up a paywall that one couldn't even access one's own account to delete it without paying a subscription), as I understand it, it only applies to people who were in the EU as the data collection occurred.

No, it covers EU citizens' data fully no matter where they are or where the data is. It may also cover non-EU citizens when in Europe which is perhaps what the article you read was referring to or had misunderstood.

It seems slightly unclear, but generally a lot of interpretations seem to be focusing on the location of the person. An American buying something in a European airport is protected by GDPR during their fleeting pass-through of the "GDPR zone".

https://www.hipaajournal.com/does-gdpr-apply-to-eu-citizens-... seems to suggest it is based on location. There would seem to be standing for anyone based in Europe that made an account when considering a move to the US, or who is based in Europe next Friday when the "data processing operation" occurs. That seems like it would give them standing, even if they weren't protected while overseas, as this is a new data processing operation.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by anewvillager » Sat, May 23, 2020, 10:58 AM UTC

ammon wrote: post #73

ganstyles wrote: post #24

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

Dude, just make it opt-in. It's that simple.