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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by zatel »

I interviewed with triplebyte last fall. I passed all the automated testing and did ok on the real person one (not being formally trained I struggle with concepts I've never applied in a real project). After they told me I wasn't yet good enough for their fast track program I emailed them to have my profile deleted.

I assumed they were doing this already tbh. They sent an email back saying my account was deleted and I haven't gotten this email. I guess now I'll get to see if they really did delete it.

This news does make me consider re applying for triplebyte. Showcasing skill is a pain point when I've applied for positions (sure a github & some links but who knows who really did any of that).

I can't think of a worse way to handle this though.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by ss3000 »

ammon wrote: post #57
hysan wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s the next step from here? Public profiles themselves aren’t very useful in of themselves. Asking as someone who has been on the platform for a while but has not found any success through it. I have other thoughts but would like to hear your plans before adding.

We plan to add more engineering-specific sections to the profiles. I think there's a lot of room to just display what matters to engineers/eng hiring managers better. Then we want to use the profiles to push the industry to look beyond traditional credentials (school, work at top companies). Recruiters say that they want to do this, but we need to get them off of LinkedIn where everything is designed around the tradi…

You know what, it's clear that you've put a lot of thought into this from the product & strategy side, and these are genuinely great ideas with significant potential social impact that are worth exploring further.

But it really is a shame that from this incident, myself and many others will no longer be willing to trust you and your team with the data needed to execute on these ideas.

At the end of the day, we entrusted you with extremely sensitive data in order to use your service that could threaten our very livelihoods if exposed. Your choosing to expose this data without explicit opt-in shows an alarming lack of empathy for your users and that you were never deserving of this trust.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by SilasX »

troydavis wrote: post #383
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #360

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> those comments don't get flagged out of future HN search results. Triplebyte is a YC company and HN is a YC site, so economic interests are aligned with nuking highly critical comments

> economic interests are aligned with nuking highly critical comments This is theoretically true, but the fact that it's been on the home page for 12 hours and has accumulated hundreds of critical comments, none of which any mod has touched, seems to (a) eliminate that possibility and (b) demonstrate that the risk is theoretical, not actual. (Keep in mind that YC has thousands of investments, so whatever you think of…

This. I mean, I'm all for being aware of others' biases and conflicts of interest, but -- whatever else you might criticize the mod team for -- they're definitely not "running interference" for TB or anything here.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by ncallaway »

ammon wrote: post #67
yaacov wrote: post #29

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Thanks for coming to answer questions here even though you’re likely to get dragged through the mud for this decision. FWIW, I agree with other commenters that this is a betrayal of trust but I don’t have anything original to add.

Well, sorry that you feel this way. I don't agree right now (clearly). But I'll certainly take this seriously and think more about it/listen to feedback. We're talking about relatively basic profiles, to give us the canvas to launch public achievement badges (that we hope allow us to better help people who don't have traditional credentials). My view, building this, is that we're not displaying anything more private…

> Stack Overflow has public profiles. Hacker Rank has public profile. AngelList has public profiles. Even HN has public profiles

This seems so obviously disingenuous to me. You know why Triplebyte is different, right? You understand why employees would want to keep the fact that they have a Triplebyte account secret instead of public, right?

If you do know that answer, then you should recognize that you're betraying the trust you created with the user. If you do know why Triplebyte is different, then you're lying to us here.

If you do not know why Triplebyte is different why on earth are you the CEO of a recruiting company. That's absolutely unforgivable.

This one sentence gives away that you're either lying to us or willfully ignorant and careless about your users. Either way, I'll never trust you again.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by catalogia »

interactivecode wrote: post #61
ammon wrote: post #12

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Really sorry that you think this is awful. Certainly do opt-out. I think that taking on LinkedIn and creating a better engineering resume is a good thing to do. I can assure you that the Friday announcement is a result of our team grinding to hit a planned release week, not anything other than that (I would have loved to get this out earlier in the week)

Hey Ammon, the idea is good, it's solid. Nothing bad there. I think everyone knows LinkedIn has it's issues. But like come on. Why make everyone's private job search public? by default no less!? How can we trust triplebite with our career, finance information and personal information when you pull these kinds of moves. Make a good product. If it's actually good people will sign up.

That ammon would even consider doing this proves that he's no better than linkedin anyway. What a fool.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by withdavidli »

pmiller2 wrote: post #387
reitzensteinm wrote: post #224

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Not necessarily. But what if you didn't have one yesterday, but you do have one today? What if you have only worked for one employer since TripleByte was founded (2015)? What if the only place you've worked is a startup of which you're a cofounder? If you can't think of a way in which a privacy leak can have consequences, that doesn't mean there aren't any.

What if I have? How does that imply anything other than that I took a test?

It's a known interviewing service. The implication by many would be that you took the test because you were interested in interviewing.

Is there another big use case that I'm missing from their product? Interested in hearing your interpretation of a person that has a profile on an interviewing service. My assumption would be the main objective of a user signing up for a service would be using the main product the service provides.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by Judgmentality »

errantspark wrote: post #192
remote_phone wrote: post #46

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What a foolish decision to make. Knowing what you know about HN users, did you expect that this would go well? You can pretty much assume that Triplebyte will be persona non grata henceforth, especially as word spreads that you are publicly exposing people and only giving 1 week to opt out. Extremely foolish and really shines a bad light on your decision making capabilities. Why would I put my trust in a company that…

A lot of people go through YC and while their filter is better than most I assure you this is hardly the most shockingly stupid thing I've seen someone in YC do, ever heard of Meta? That was a dumpster fire from start to finish.

Yeah, but one of the TripleByte founders used to be a YC partner, so it's a little different.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by macNchz »

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

Yikes, that two year thing is gross.

They have definitely been kind of spammy for a long time...I usually ignore their emails but I actually read the first paragraph of this one and it sounded like it was an opt-in feature, so I closed it, but the important line was further down: “You can edit your profile privacy settings to not appear in public search engines at any time.”

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by friendlybus »

ammon wrote: post #10

Hey everyone. Happy to answer any questions about this. Basically, we think that LinkedIn profiles don't do a good job of showing engineering skill (especially for self-taught people or people from non-traditional backgrounds). I'm excited to just build better support for showing side projects and GitHub contributions. LinkedIn profiles have become the default engineering resume (despite the fact that most engineers…

It would have been more productive to say nothing and just plow on, than attempt these comments.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by Raed667 »

Raed667 wrote: post #115

I tried deleting my account and apparently it takes 30 days for some reason! That looks so shady! We're processing your request and should be done within 30 days. We will verify your request using the information associated with your account. Government identification may be required and we may ask you for more information in order to verify your identify. Any questions? Email us at privacy@triplebyte.com

Update for fairness: 11 hours later, I got the email confirming my account deletion. (Without having to provide any ID)
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