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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by MandieD »

DethNinja wrote: post #277
arcturus17 wrote: post #184

Wow, what a dumpster fire. The CEO coming in here and trying to defend that this is actually a great idea is only making things worse. I'm guessing they don't operate in Europe, because this would be a massive violation of many European and national privacy regulations. Maybe they should take a hint from this - the fact that they can pull it off in the US doesn't mean it's morally acceptable.

If they ever interviewed an engineer from EU then what they are doing is very much illegal, it doesn’t matter even if company is based on USA.

Engineer in the EU, even if they are US citizens - there are over 100,000 US citizens in Germany, not counting current military or their dependents.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by tablethnuser »

ammon wrote: post #73
ganstyles wrote: post #24

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

Please don't make your team work on a U.S. holiday weekend for this. Just don't hit the deploy button on this change and now there's no deadline and no need for crunch.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by kerkeslager »

iovrthoughtthis wrote: post #104
ammon wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

Hey! Welcome to your first PR disaster. I would suggest you step away from any scripts and turn on the company ears. Simply explaining what is going on more “clear” and repeating it more often probably won’t get you anywhere good. Why does this make your users uncomfortable? How can you work with them to achieve your product goals without undermining your relationship with them? Good luck!

I strongly object to characterizing this situation as a PR disaster. The problem isn't that TripleByte is perceived as doing something unethical. The problem is that what TripleByte is doing is unethical.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by bootlooped »

asidiali wrote: post #316
bootlooped wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"They make you take a 2 hour live coding interview with a Triplebyte engineer, with the promise that if you pass, you won’t need to do any more technical interviews with companies through Triplebyte, only “final-round personality-style on-sites”." I was never given the impression that there would be no more technical interviews after the Triplebyte one. They were always crystal clear with me that there would be 2 ste…

Thanks for sharing! They told me there would be a 30m pitch call followed by an all day of on-sites that were explicitly not whiteboarding sessions or technical assessments . Also, I still did have several back and forth calls with companies I was connected with - it wasn’t just the one half-hour call and then on-sites. Here’s the exact email from TripleByte upon passing the quiz: “ Here's how it works: 1. We'll show…

Now that I read what you quoted it does sound ambiguous. It doesn't explicitly say that the final interview is non-technical, but "skip technical screening" could be interpreted as implying that.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by ori_b »

pmiller2 wrote: post #182
travisjungroth wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone goes from not having a profile to having one, you know they’re job hunting. It’s like saying “Your Tinder profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your dating search that will undermine you in your current relationship.”

That's a false equivalence. You're talking about a business relationship versus an intimate personal relationship context.

You're right -- most people's livelihoods don't depend on staying together with their girlfriend.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by Jommi »

darekkay wrote: post #271
aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

>> Government identification may be required and we may ask you for more information in order to verify your identify Same issue as I'm currently having with Airbnb. Though I have never ever provided any ID before, nor did I ever book anything, they asked me for an ID to prove my identity upon requesting account removal. How exactly does my ID _prove_ anything in my case (apart from the fact that I have an ID copy of…

It's pretty common actually. They will delete all your data, but that requires strong authentication, which government ID is. That's how it works with gdpr in 90% of cases.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by kerkeslager »

libso wrote: post #330

Chill everyone. Ammon didn't mean to betray anyone's trust. He just executed public profiles feature very poorly and compared them to profiles on anonymous platforms which was naive. Before a lot of people see this and delete their profile if I were him I'd do this> +Continue keeping it an opt-out feature. But give a long lead time. A month or two. Regular emails warning that profile will go public and a personalized…

> Ammon didn't mean to betray anyone's trust.

Sure, they sent out an innocuous-looking email that didn't actually describe the important details of what was happening, on a Friday, hid opting out in low contrast on a page where it would be unexpected to find it, and made deleting accounts so difficult that I would have never found it if someone hadn't posted it here, and it requires a government ID to do it.

But sure, all these dark patterns were unintentional--they didn't mean to.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by Zekio »

Jommi wrote: post #337
darekkay wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Government identification may be required and we may ask you for more information in order to verify your identify Same issue as I'm currently having with Airbnb. Though I have never ever provided any ID before, nor did I ever book anything, they asked me for an ID to prove my identity upon requesting account removal. How exactly does my ID _prove_ anything in my case (apart from the fact that I have an ID copy of…

It's pretty common actually. They will delete all your data, but that requires strong authentication, which government ID is. That's how it works with gdpr in 90% of cases.

Account removal should be just as easy as it was to sign up

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by kerkeslager »

ako wrote: post #165
ALittleLight wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why you'd think it's okay to suddenly make private information about your users public. The lesson is not "We should've included a screenshot" but rather "We shouldn't automatically opt our users in to sharing information they thought was private.". This is a betrayal of user trust. I saw your email in my inbox but didn't read it. I never would've noticed with improved screenshots or not. Do you read ever…

Did you read the fine print when signing up? Maybe this goal has been in their fine print for a long time.

So what? Caveat emptor has no place in honest, trustworthy business practices.
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