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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by bootlooped »

ganstyles wrote: post #45
wolfgang42 wrote: post #41

I interviewed via Triplebyte last year, and thoroughly enjoyed the service. Before this I would have (and did) wholeheartedly recommended them to anyone; the process was great from the candidate’s perspective and I also have confidence in their ability to accurately evaluate candidates’ skills. After this announcement, though, I’m afraid that faith has completely crumbled. Even if Ammon had showed up in this thread a…

For what it's worth, this was what happened to me. They regularly send marketing emails and updates, which I skim from time to time. It wasn't until I saw this thread that I realized that one particular email out of the ( actually checks notes ) 62 (!!!) unsolicited emails they've sent me in the last 12 months was this important.

For me, it seems like the emails picked up a lot in the last 2 months. I attributed this to covid aka a lot of people instantly out of work. The most cynical take is that they increased email frequency so this would be more likely to fly under the radar. I am not even sure I believe that though.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by barbecue_sauce »

pmiller2 wrote: post #198
travisjungroth wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that just having the profile is data. He can’t predict what impact making this data public will have.

Companies that are worth a shit don't retaliate against people for looking at other opportunities. That's precisely why your Tinder example is not just off base, it's wrong. Another way to look at it: either you're a replaceable cog, or you're essential to running the business. If you're essential, they're going to do whatever they can to keep you. If you're replaceable, they probably don't care that much whether you…

Very few companies are worth a shit.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by yaur »

ammon wrote: post #66
interactivecode wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Ammon, the idea is good, it's solid. Nothing bad there. I think everyone knows LinkedIn has it's issues. But like come on. Why make everyone's private job search public? by default no less!? How can we trust triplebite with our career, finance information and personal information when you pull these kinds of moves. Make a good product. If it's actually good people will sign up.

We're not making anyone's job search details pubic. All that the profile will show is that an engineer created a Triplebyte profile at some point in the past, and any badges they earned.

Imagine that you are the CEO of Ashley Maddison making this argument...

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by bootlooped »

asidiali wrote: post #287

Triplebyte was already a joke, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Their whole “Fast Track” program claiming to allow you to skip technical interviews is a total fraud of a marketing ploy. They make you take a 2 hour live coding interview with a Triplebyte engineer, with the promise that if you pass, you won’t need to do any more technical interviews with companies through Triplebyte, only “final-round pe…

"They make you take a 2 hour live coding interview with a Triplebyte engineer, with the promise that if you pass, you won’t need to do any more technical interviews with companies through Triplebyte, only “final-round personality-style on-sites”."

I was never given the impression that there would be no more technical interviews after the Triplebyte one. They were always crystal clear with me that there would be 2 steps for each company: a 30 minute non-technical "pitch call", and a final all-day onsite. They never implied the onsite was non-technical, and I never took it to be.

I think the value proposition is that you skip almost all of the back and forth footsie before the onsite. In my experience it was worth it. There were some companies I interviewed with, not through Triplebyte, where I had 7 or 8 calls before they would bring me onsite. I get it, they want to make sure they're sure before they pay for a hotel and a flight, but it is a big hassle.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jdxcode »

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

that dropdown is super annoying: https://imgur.com/a/iUFg3cn

Also, I clicked that "visibility hidden" and got this email:

"Hey Jeff,

You’re no longer letting companies know that you’re open to discussing new opportunities. Your profile will be hidden from employers for the next 24 months. You can change your job search status and make your profile visible again, whenever you feel ready explore new opportunities." (https://imgur.com/a/OBWexgo)

So even that only will get rid of it for 24 months. Let's see if they'll just delete my account.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by 3ra »

NightlyDev wrote: post #243
csdreamer7 wrote: post #38

So I wasn't sure where to opt-out at first. I clicked privacy center, ( https://triplebyte.com/privacy-center ), couldn't find the option, but chose 'Opt out of Personal Information Sharing' because why not? After clicking the button I had to click a confirmation email to get this approved. Then it said it would happen within 30 days and I may be required to show govt ID. Why? I am already verified with my login acco…

The solution is simple. Make your profile something they don't want on their site. Link to porn, change your profile picture to porn and so on. It's effective

XD

NightlyDev going straight for the jugular here. I cannot deny the effectiveness of this strategy lol

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by g_p »

josephg wrote: post #249
g_p wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In which case, it sounds like at the moment they carry out a "data processing operation" to make your data public, you would have standing to make a formal complaint to your local data protection authority. Article 18 restriction of processing can apply here. Art. 25 "Data protection by design and by default" would seem to be relevant as well. The section I alluded to above is the latter half of 25(2), saying "In par…

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice but ... I don’t think the European government has legal standing to fine triplebyte. Triplebyte doesn’t have offices, employees or customers in Europe. A European visiting the US and interacting with an American business does so under the protection of US law, not EU law. This is complicated in the case of Facebook and google because they also do business in Europe, so E…

Not a lawyer, not legal advice either, but the GDPR approach to extraterritoriality is somewhat interesting. The presence of offices or employees isn't a strict requirement by law. The law, as written, would seem to apply to a US entity serving EU customers. But international law probably wouldn't facilitate doing anything about that.

Of course there is a question about how you could enforce such a ruling. And if it can't be enforced, is it really a sanction? I guess if countries wanted to take this really seriously, they could get a list of company officers and put immigration flags on those individuals, and hold them temporarily upon trying to enter that country, until the matter was resolved. But that would be rather extreme, and you do raise some good points around which countries can fine the companies of other countries.

CCPA from California seems to have some cross-border implications as well - perhaps we will finally see a framework for privacy laws that works better than today's hotch-potch?

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jdxcode »

grizzles wrote: post #132
ganstyles wrote: post #24

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

It looks like emailing candidate.support@triplebyte.com is the only way to delete your account.

there is a link at https://triplebyte.com/privacy-center

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jdxcode »

derivagral wrote: post #272
peteretep wrote: post #215

The fundamental disconnect here is that Ammon seems to think this data belongs to him, for uses he deems appropriate, rather than belonging to his users. This works for Facebook and LinkedIn because of network effects, but not for some random staffing agency with a tech gimmick. If Adecco or MichaelPage did this it’d attract the attention of ambitious public prosecutors worldwide. It’s almost a shame, as the idea its…

Isn't this legally the case? There's a random place on the internet and people upload details. Not payment info, and I honestly am not clear on how much the rest is protected (USA). This is exactly what Zuckerberg called people "dumb fucks" for, and I don't think anything (legally) has changed. I'm on your side as far as the "why the hell is this the case", but I think this is the world that (USA and others) live in.

Legal or not it's clearly the wrong thing to do and not at all what users would expect.
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