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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by DethNinja »

josephg wrote: post #249
g_p wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In which case, it sounds like at the moment they carry out a "data processing operation" to make your data public, you would have standing to make a formal complaint to your local data protection authority. Article 18 restriction of processing can apply here. Art. 25 "Data protection by design and by default" would seem to be relevant as well. The section I alluded to above is the latter half of 25(2), saying "In par…

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice but ... I don’t think the European government has legal standing to fine triplebyte. Triplebyte doesn’t have offices, employees or customers in Europe. A European visiting the US and interacting with an American business does so under the protection of US law, not EU law. This is complicated in the case of Facebook and google because they also do business in Europe, so E…

Triplebyte can be 100% fined by EU, there are such previous cases where HQ is out of EU but they are serving EU citizens.

GDPR is very clear in wording that it doesn’t matter whether company has offices in EU or not, only thing that matters is if company is providing services to EU citizens.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jobhunter01 »

ammon wrote: post #10

Hey everyone. Happy to answer any questions about this. Basically, we think that LinkedIn profiles don't do a good job of showing engineering skill (especially for self-taught people or people from non-traditional backgrounds). I'm excited to just build better support for showing side projects and GitHub contributions. LinkedIn profiles have become the default engineering resume (despite the fact that most engineers…

(posting from a throwaway account, but long time HN user).

Well, I was just about to go through your process, since you announced that you are opening to remotes (I'm in the EU), but now I've requested that you delete my profile. No way I want my current employer to know I'm looking, especially in the current climate where job hunting is difficult.

As other people have mentioned, you now have a deeper problem than entering a new market. You just broke your users trust.

And the sad thing is that this was a real opportunity, because linkedin sucks. Unfortunately what you failed to realise is that there is appetite to switch from linkedin to a more honourable company. Not to an equally or more dishonest one.

Most likely your staff were trying to warn you about this from the beginning, and it would be worth your time reflecting on why you didn't take note of that more deeply.

I know you are looking for actionable routes to save your company right now. In my opinion, the loss of trust is so bad that only a pretty costly signal will now cause people to reevaluate. The one that springs to mind is for you, Ammon, to announce that you are stepping down as CEO and starting a search for someone who is committed to privacy to take on the role.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by TomVDB »

ammon wrote: post #12
haram_masala wrote: post #5

This is awful. And announcing this late on a Friday is what news organizations call “taking out the trash,” publicizing something when people aren’t paying attention.

Really sorry that you think this is awful. Certainly do opt-out. I think that taking on LinkedIn and creating a better engineering resume is a good thing to do. I can assure you that the Friday announcement is a result of our team grinding to hit a planned release week, not anything other than that (I would have loved to get this out earlier in the week)

The Internet craves a good dumpster fire every once in a while, with truly evil company actions, tone deaf non-apology apology CEOs, and a certain future collapse.

Thanks for the entertainment!

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by prepend »

hitekker wrote: post #118
iovrthoughtthis wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! Welcome to your first PR disaster. I would suggest you step away from any scripts and turn on the company ears. Simply explaining what is going on more “clear” and repeating it more often probably won’t get you anywhere good. Why does this make your users uncomfortable? How can you work with them to achieve your product goals without undermining your relationship with them? Good luck!

> Simply explaining what is going on more “clear” and repeating it more often probably won’t get you anywhere good. I've learned this lesson personally. Trying to be "clear" about my own perspective while ignoring what the other person feels. "You don't like what you see? Impossible, you just can't see it. Let me make you see!"

The rhetorical technique that annoys me the most plays out like this...

Me: Thing You: I hate that thing Me: You don’t understand Thing. Here’s Thing explained. You: I understand Thing, I still hate it. Me: You don’t understand Thing. When you understand it, you’ll like it. (Repeat)

Sometimes this is stupidity thinking that understanding is missing, but I think it’s usually shady just so they have something to say to counter the objection that is visible to people outside the conversation, who are interested, and at least see some form of technical interaction.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by [deleted] »

prepend wrote: post #284
hitekker wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Simply explaining what is going on more “clear” and repeating it more often probably won’t get you anywhere good. I've learned this lesson personally. Trying to be "clear" about my own perspective while ignoring what the other person feels. "You don't like what you see? Impossible, you just can't see it. Let me make you see!"

The rhetorical technique that annoys me the most plays out like this... Me: Thing You: I hate that thing Me: You don’t understand Thing. Here’s Thing explained. You: I understand Thing, I still hate it. Me: You don’t understand Thing. When you understand it, you’ll like it. (Repeat) Sometimes this is stupidity thinking that understanding is missing, but I think it’s usually shady just so they have something to say to…

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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by prepend »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #187
ammon wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

I interviewed with TB a couple of years ago. Didn't do too great in the technical interview. Is that about to be public?

Similarly, I took a test in a language I’m not very familiar with to understand the process. I’m not terribly embarrassed, but I don’t want that publicly available.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by asidiali »

Triplebyte was already a joke, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Their whole “Fast Track” program claiming to allow you to skip technical interviews is a total fraud of a marketing ploy.

They make you take a 2 hour live coding interview with a Triplebyte engineer, with the promise that if you pass, you won’t need to do any more technical interviews with companies through Triplebyte, only “final-round personality-style on-sites”.

The reality is that any company who contacts you is STILL going to run you thru their entire interviewing process. The extra 2 hour interview with Triplebyte is literally pointless - and any company you try to discuss this “policy” with will be caught confused and off guard.

It’s no surprise to me that a company that blatantly lies about their offering would do some crap like this.

Shame on Triplebyte for their fraudulent and dishonest nature.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by juandazapata »

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

Just a reminder that most of these companies never really delete your account, they simply deactivate it, while keeping all your data. You can also update your profile info and fill it with gibberish.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by prepend »

ammon wrote: post #66
interactivecode wrote: post #61

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Hey Ammon, the idea is good, it's solid. Nothing bad there. I think everyone knows LinkedIn has it's issues. But like come on. Why make everyone's private job search public? by default no less!? How can we trust triplebite with our career, finance information and personal information when you pull these kinds of moves. Make a good product. If it's actually good people will sign up.

We're not making anyone's job search details pubic. All that the profile will show is that an engineer created a Triplebyte profile at some point in the past, and any badges they earned.

The primary reason people sign up with your service is job search. Having a profile most likely indicates job search and will certainly be interpreted as such by many managers and employers, I expect.

It’s like explaining to your spouse of 5 years why you have a profile on a dating site that started 3 years ago.

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