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MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by pinopinopino »

vbezhenar wrote: post #887
pinopinopino wrote: post #838

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Analogue question in the linux world: Why would anyone get something in the debian package repository, when they can just release their package on their website? Because it gets added support, a bigger reach and a safer and easier installation for users?

There are special people: maintainers. They collect software from the world and package them for Debian. They often are different from original developers. Original developers might not even know that their software was repackaged. It's possible because of free software licenses. Apple can't do that even if they would want: proprietary software typically does not allow redistribution.

Good point, it wouldn't work that way with proprietary software.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by pinopinopino »

pjmlp wrote: post #841
pinopinopino wrote: post #832

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Sure, you can buy whatever you want, you aren't living in a dictatorial country. Sadly enough, most people can't say this. Therefore it is important for you to fight decisions like this. If something doesn't exist, it cannot be abused by some regime. I am going to say something very cynical now, if the reader doesn't like that, he should tune out now. But I guess Apple can't wait to have that special China deal. ^_^

Except Apple isn't a dictatorial country, and there are other computer vendors to choose from. Apple isn't Mafia, doing personal visits while giving advices to buy Apple computers otherwise accidents do happen. Buying an Apple computer is a conscious decision. I love how many around here make their decisions, and then feel entitled to complain and point the finger to big corporations, as if these corporations are the…

Multinationals are not countries, but they are operating in multiple countries and there actions can have influence on the people in those countries. If Apple makes it possible to stop certain software to be installed then China can abuse the mechanism.

And I am entitled to complain about big corporations. That is the beauty if you life in a free country and even if it wasn't free to complain about them, I still would do it.

I rather see them all burn today than tomorrow.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by tsukurimashou »

BruceEel wrote: post #888
tsukurimashou wrote: post #555

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Nice, I would like to hear your experience with it once you do that

Well, my head is spinning, but I've made a bit of progress. I thought I'd start by trying out a few of the ones you and others have characterized as user-friendly as well as one of the more bare-bones ones. The (hopelessly unscientific) test plan was: Challenge 1 - write live system ISO to USB drive and boot it on my 2015 MacBook Air (which, though old, still counts as exotic, I guess.) Challenge 2 - make sure displa…

interesting! Thanks for posting your feedback, I think mint is really great, I'm an ArchLinux user but I like having mint installed on some laptop, the installation is very straightforward and I feel it's way less bloated than Ubuntu for example. And pretty much everything worked out of the box with the laptops I've installed it on (mostly dell laptops).

I haven't used Ubuntu much lately but I remember always having to add community repository to get some package I needed. (Also one of the reason I love Arch, a lot of packages there updated more quickly than most distro + the AUR for everything not present in official repo)

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by tsukurimashou »

RockIslandLine wrote: post #366
tsukurimashou wrote: post #207

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not him but same experience, from my previous comment: I would recommend: Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Elementary OS, Pop!_OS if you want: nice experience out of the box I would recommend: Arch, Gentoo, Debian Net inst, Void if you want a base system and install things you want on top of it

Gentoo needs vastly better documentation to be useful.

I would say that Archwiki covers a lot of things for a lot of distros, but yeah I would only recommend Gentoo to 'advanced' users, or if you really want to get into it the hard way.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by verytrivial »

gitgud wrote: post #682
dTal wrote: post #644

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Making this about speed is burying the lede. From a privacy and user-freedom perspective, it's horrifying . Don't think so? Apple now theoretically has a centralized database of every Mac user who's ever used youtube-dl. Or Tor. Or TrueCrypt.

Richard Stallman's ideals have become a bit less crazy for me now... Either you have the ability to control the software, or it controls you

I think coming to this realisation about Stallman's ideas (not the man, mind) is something that most rational computer users are bound to do. It happens at different times for different people, but I think people very rarely go back after that "Hang on a second ....??" moment.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by BruceEel »

tsukurimashou wrote: post #893
BruceEel wrote: post #888

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Well, my head is spinning, but I've made a bit of progress. I thought I'd start by trying out a few of the ones you and others have characterized as user-friendly as well as one of the more bare-bones ones. The (hopelessly unscientific) test plan was: Challenge 1 - write live system ISO to USB drive and boot it on my 2015 MacBook Air (which, though old, still counts as exotic, I guess.) Challenge 2 - make sure displa…

interesting! Thanks for posting your feedback, I think mint is really great, I'm an ArchLinux user but I like having mint installed on some laptop, the installation is very straightforward and I feel it's way less bloated than Ubuntu for example. And pretty much everything worked out of the box with the laptops I've installed it on (mostly dell laptops). I haven't used Ubuntu much lately but I remember always having…

Aye, very happy to have found what look like really viable alternatives, this is promising. And if I manage to make the transition, I will eventually want to try out more sophisticated distro's like Arch, I am quite sure of that.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by stilley2 »

nottorp wrote: post #870
pjmlp wrote: post #812

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Developers who use macOS as shiny GNU/Linux replacement are only getting what they deserve, they should have supported Linux OEMs to start with. Those that show up at FOSDEM, carrying their beloved macBooks and iPads while pretending to be into FOSS. I use Apple devices knowingly what they are for, not as replacement for something else.

Sadly it's not the "shiny"... it's the fact that Mac OS has a GUI that works. Been using linux since the days you installed Slackware from floppies and recompiled your kernel to get drivers. Command line has always been a bliss, but no one has managed to come up with an usable and consistent GUI yet. Btw does sleep work on linux laptops these days? How's hi dpi support?

When was the last time you gave KDE a try? I just switched from using a tiling window manager and was impressed by how much stuff "just works" and the degree of customizability.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by pmarreck »

jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #725
pmarreck wrote: post #708

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There’s going to be a big exodus of open source developers going to Linux-powered platforms instead of the standard Mac laptop because of this ridiculousness

> the standard Mac laptop There is nothing standard about a Mac laptop, both technically and in market share.

Well, I'd say 90% of the computers I've seen at the last 10 confs I've attended were Macbook Pros

https://hackernoon.com/why-do-developers-run-macs-9ad81d58d1...

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by konart »

jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #717
konart wrote: post #321

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I think you are missing a point here. tl;dr: I don't have and don't want to have two PCs for two use cases. I have my personal macbook that I use for work (development) and everything else. I use it when I have to be at the office or when I want to work outside of my apartment. Needless to say I want my personal computer to have applications that I use. For both - work and ... not work. >> continuity and handoff >Why…

That is definitely not wise. Many companies lock down devices for good reason. For starters, to prevent employees doing that and risking the entire company.

Many companies also take a screenshot of your screen every 10 seconds to "keep you in shape". I'm not taking part in this shit show thankfully. I've had my time in corporations that do this or similar stuff. Never again.

And the only channel I'm connected to the company is the email and selfhosted gitlab. Now tell me how can a twitter client on my working machine harm this. Not in a fictional one in a life time scenario out of Mr Robot.

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