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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by darekkay »

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

>> Government identification may be required and we may ask you for more information in order to verify your identify

Same issue as I'm currently having with Airbnb. Though I have never ever provided any ID before, nor did I ever book anything, they asked me for an ID to prove my identity upon requesting account removal. How exactly does my ID _prove_ anything in my case (apart from the fact that I have an ID copy of a person who has the same name as I entered into the Airbnb profile page). Seems more like one more obstacle to prevent people from deleting their account.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by derivagral »

peteretep wrote: post #215

The fundamental disconnect here is that Ammon seems to think this data belongs to him, for uses he deems appropriate, rather than belonging to his users. This works for Facebook and LinkedIn because of network effects, but not for some random staffing agency with a tech gimmick. If Adecco or MichaelPage did this it’d attract the attention of ambitious public prosecutors worldwide. It’s almost a shame, as the idea its…

Isn't this legally the case? There's a random place on the internet and people upload details. Not payment info, and I honestly am not clear on how much the rest is protected (USA). This is exactly what Zuckerberg called people "dumb fucks" for, and I don't think anything (legally) has changed.

I'm on your side as far as the "why the hell is this the case", but I think this is the world that (USA and others) live in.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by darekkay »

m11a wrote: post #245
odensc wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Government identification may be required Ah yes, the classic "send us more of your PII to delete your information." I've ran into that too many times.

It's a horrible way companies try to discourage data subjects from exercising their rights. This is not lawful under both the GDPR and the CCPA. If Triplebyte follow through with their request against an EU or California resident, they'd be breaking data protection laws. If comments here are any indication, too many people, being unaware of their rights, may fall for it though.

> This is not lawful under both the GDPR and the CCPA.

INAL, but from my understanding that's exactly what GDPR itself suggests to do:

> The controller should use all reasonable measures to verify the identity of a data subject who requests access, in particular in the context of online services and online identifiers.

Thats mainly because [2]:

> There is a very real concern of fraudulent requests from bad actors, who might use a customer’s data for nefarious purposes.

While it's great to know that noone else is able to delete my account, it still feels shady af.

[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/oj#d1e1374-1-1

[2] https://konfirmi.com/blog/gdpr-personal-data-id-verification...

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by TechBro8615 »

localcrisis wrote: post #129
travisjungroth wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How can you work with them to achieve your product goals without undermining your relationship with them? Literally just make it opt-in.

Opt-In doesn't help them achieve their product goals. Triplebyte as founded isn't working so they're trying to take a valuable asset they have (engineers looking for jobs) to compete with linkedin The problem with bootstrapping a linkedin competitor is the same chicken-and-egg problem with networks generally. You need people on it for people to join it. What Triplebyte wants is your identity public. That's the produc…

They could have made it low friction opt-in. “Click this one button in our email to you and we’ll import your account.”

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by mkagenius »

josephg wrote: post #237
ORioN63 wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

support@triplebyte.com is probably for clients. Source: Candidate, has a very specific marketing meaning, of you being the product.

There’s a lot of things to dislike about triplebyte’s behaviour here, but this particular criticism isn’t fair. I’ve worked at 3 different companies in the hiring space across two continents and “candidate” is the internal term they all ended up using internally for people seeking jobs. “Applicant” is too vague and “job seeker” is long and hard to scan (and it’s too similar at a glance to “job”, which is also not oft…

Not sure we are talking about database tables here. A user friendly email looks like help@xyz.com or support@xyz.com, not candidate.serialize.json@xyz.com

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by toyg »

JadeNB wrote: post #247
toyg wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How many people who were searching for a job without telling their company are going to opt-in to make that public? I think that's the real issue: timing . The only time this can work is when someone has just resigned or joined a new company, so they can (and are actually willing to) "legitimately" pump up the volume about themselves. So make it an easy opt-in triggered by these events. Any triplebyte candidate tha…

> Any triplebyte candidate that "closes the deal" should get opted-in automatically. Anybody without an ongoing work relationship, should get opted-in automatically. Am I misunderstanding you? If you "get opted in automatically", then it's no longer opt-in; it's opt-out.

Yeah sorry, I should have been more precise: I meant to say that it should get turned on for those users automatically at those times.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by DethNinja »

arcturus17 wrote: post #184

Wow, what a dumpster fire. The CEO coming in here and trying to defend that this is actually a great idea is only making things worse. I'm guessing they don't operate in Europe, because this would be a massive violation of many European and national privacy regulations. Maybe they should take a hint from this - the fact that they can pull it off in the US doesn't mean it's morally acceptable.

If they ever interviewed an engineer from EU then what they are doing is very much illegal, it doesn’t matter even if company is based on USA.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by TechBro8615 »

im3w1l wrote: post #181
g_p wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless, this breaches GDPR by making data public and accessible to an unlimited audience by default. I hope (for your sake) that you don't have any users that can invoke their GDPR rights against you by virtue of their citizenship. For the sake of incentivising companies to do the right thing, however, I hope you do have some EU or UK citizen users who do litigate or have their data protection authority investiga…

Triplebyte is only targetting Americans afaik.

That’s not true. Even if it were, many Americans live in Europe and are subject to GDPR.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by flareback »

ammon wrote: post #73
ganstyles wrote: post #24

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

Your site is a job search site so the fact that someone has an account means they have been job hunting. This is not like Stack Overflow or Hackernews that you seem to like comparing the profiles to. StackOverflow may have job search functionality but it started as primarily something not related to a job search so my having an account there doesn't mean I have been job hunting.
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