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I think the fact is there simply isn't a solution that works for both the "layperson" and highly technical people who want to do development. Laypeople cannot be trusted to admin their machines, but experts need access to those bits. Leaving a backdoor to real admin access for the experts just means laypeople will abuse those backdoors and mess up their machines again, with dire consequences for the entire planet. Yo…
> Linux was always a disaster in terms of user experience and isn't improving. This as true today as saying java is slow. Why not just try? You might get pleasantly surprised.
MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?
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The problem is that there is more than one market here. There is a general market where people love the vendor looking after their security and doing things for them, and there is a pro/hacker market where people want to control things themselves and dont want a lot of this stuff.
This. Yes the option of a walled garden is a great thing and I wouldn't recommend anything but an Apple device to my non-technical relatives. But if Apple also wants to make the $$ that comes from selling "pro" gear, they need to stop relentlessly consumerizing and turning OS X into iOS. I don't think they realize the level of ill will they are engendering in the developer/pro market. Perhaps it's time for a "Pro" an…
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I'm curious what your results would be with the stock Terminal. Do you have the settings that others have talked about under "Security > Privacy > Developer Tools" with Terminal.app listed? If so, and the results are better with Terminal, then it'd be interesting to see if the issue is fixed when you add iTerm2 to the list of exempted apps as well.
I have tried what you suggested. Granting "Developer Tools" access definitely FIXED THIS ISSUE for the specific application. Here is the new result (I only run once for each case): ╒══════════╤═════════════╤═══════════════════════════╕ │ │ │ +"Developer Tools" access │ ╞══════════╪═════════════╪═══════════════════════════╡ │ terminal │ 1.448/0.004 │ 0.016/0.004 │ ├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────────┤…
Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?
#734All of these complaints are about security features. Yes these features could be better implemented, but I'm happy they're there. It's very important to be able to opt out of them, but I like that they're the default. Notarization needs a cleanup pass and the rest of it seems like it needs an optimization pass. P.S. The rationale for notarization is to not distribute and thus advertise the filters and detection mecha…
That's true (or else there are 0 ways), but it's not what the Church–Turing thesis says.
Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?
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The quote isn't at all relevant to technical decisions though. Eg, there is enforcement that a program can't arbitrarily access any RAM it likes on the same machine. That is trading freedom for security and it is a good trade. And there isn't really an argument against gatekeeping software - users as a body don't have time to verify that the software they use is secure. I'd be shocked if the median web developer even…
Of course it's relevant! Software is a form of expression. Apple controls what types of expression are allowed on your phone. A developer made a game depicting bad practices at FoxConn. Apple removed it for "Objectionable Content"[1]. How is this inherently different from Apple saying you can't use your iPhone to read a certain book? Apple's restrictions also make it easy for authoritarian governments to ban software…
But ultimately I own an iPhone because I need a GPS map, SIM card and web browser on the go. Apple doesn't exercise any creative control over those things. Apart from that they explicitly sell a highly curated platform. I expect them to make decisions I don't agree with; that is what curators do. That is the service they sell so I'm not going to complain.
If someone used that walled garden approach on my PC I'd be furious. On my phone, I give them hundreds of dollars for the privilege. If I were going to get upset about freedom and phones, which is reasonable, I have a loooong list of problems before I get to Apple's security model - starting with government interception of messages and moving down to having my name attached to my SIM card. Apple's activities don't really rate, and they have better incentives than Google.
PS. I'm not arguing against phones being scary. Look at the COVID tracking apps that some companies and governments are bringing out that might become mandatory one day. Or the way the US is known to use phone GPS to target drone strikes. Phones are terrifying. Apple's curating/censorship/what have you really doesn't rate on my threat model when dealing with a phone.
Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?
#736I still love macOS, a lot. Since moving over after the disaster that was Windows 8 (and by then I was already using MacBook hardware), I've become a loving power user e.g. with AppleScript and setting up hotkeys or other ways to do absolutely anything I want on the screen. It really is still as powerfully customisable as Linux. Turn off SIP if need be. My only problem in moving to Linux software is that I prefer Appl…
I have a 2019 Macbook Pro 16in and I hate it. It runs exceptionally hot (leading to massive performance problems), doesn't get enough power from the adapter to start with no battery, doesn't play nicely with my display, needs restarting every couple of days so Chrome doesn't crash and takes forever to boot. That's just the technical problems. I'm willing to give the UI a break, since it's probably as much me adjustin…
I also am sick of the touch bar now - after 2 years living with it. I have to press it twice to actually pause my media, because it's an LCD screen and it has to auto turn off to prevent burn-in. That's a regression from the old hard media button in the Fn row which was both instant and far easier to press. At least we got 'Esc' back.
But man, their trackpad...nothing beats it. Still.
Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?
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Another way to look at it is that Apple is moving towards a future where all software for the mac must be purchased from the app store. Bubye Apple, my next machine will likely be a Dell Ubuntu.
Yeah, this is the future I've been foreseeing for years. Every new OS update just ever so slightly decreases your ability to control what software is on your device, and how you can use it. For example, you used to be able to back up your purchased iOS apps to your computer, and restore them from your computer. In one iOS update (9 IIRC?), they removed the ability to back up the apps from your phone. In a later iOS/i…
This isn't true. You can still install existing IPAs you have saved in the past by syncing it with Finder. You can also just AirDrop an IPA to your iOS device to install it.
> Now, the only way to keep your software on your iPhone indefinitely is to never delete it, and never reformat your phone.
You can still back up IPA installers by downloading them with Apple Configurator 2. https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/download-ipa-files-for-io...
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Another way to look at it is that Apple is making it harder to run the system in an insecure fashion. You may not agree with that decision, but I certainly appreciate how Apple is looking out for the safety and security of the user. Tangent: as much as some developers hate that the only way to distribute apps for the iPhone is through the App Store, as a user I consider that walled garden of apps to be a real securit…
Wouldn't a sandboxed Zoom downloaded directly from them be equally secure?
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#739Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's just the one jailbreak that ended up in the news. There's been many other of bad things that have been pulled.
>been many other of bad things that have been pulled A jailbreak app making it to the app store being bad, and "apple's walled gardens are bad", are fundamentally incompatible.
Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?
#740Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Yes the option of a walled garden is a great thing and I wouldn't recommend anything but an Apple device to my non-technical relatives. But if Apple also wants to make the $$ that comes from selling "pro" gear, they need to stop relentlessly consumerizing and turning OS X into iOS. I don't think they realize the level of ill will they are engendering in the developer/pro market. Perhaps it's time for a "Pro" an…
Methinks you don't grok how Apple uses the term ”Pro”