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Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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That works if the statement is actually technically correct. That's not evident in this case.

It is. Outside the anglofony.

It isn't, in more than just the English-speaking world. See another user's comment in reply to my comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23276920

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Glad you came to terms with your pro-Western bias and even be upvoted by your peers for it.

It’s okay to have differing views, Wang.

Using someone's name like that crosses into personal attack and even harassment. That's not ok on HN, so please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Lmao, you must hate your life

Wang - please don't make these sort of hateful, projecting comments.

As I've pointed out upthread, using someone's name like that crosses into personal attack and even harassment.

But piling on with more, like you did here is even worse—it is mob behavior. That is seriously not cool. No more of this on HN, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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This may be a bit of pro-USA or pro-Western favoritism on my part, but if a company is getting away with illicitly gaining access to trade secrets in order to build a competitive advantage while shielded by its home country (not the best example, but t-mobile v. huawei - I imagine plenty of others are classified), is it in-scope for opposing nations to destabilize the company responsible for doing so?

Glad you came to terms with your pro-Western bias and even be upvoted by your peers for it.

Please don't post flamewar comments, as you did here and downthread, regardless of how wrong or frustrating you find some other point of view. It only makes this place even worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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> It announced new rules that target Huawei’s in-house microchips, which power many of the firm’s products. The rules are aimed at the factories that take such designs and turn them into working silicon, such as those owned by TSMC in Taiwan and SMIC in China. Out of curiosity, what's the legal basis for this? Is it just a threat, and if companines like TSMC don't follow it, they'll also be blacklisted from the US ma…

Can the US afford to blacklist TSMC from anything?

Taiwan cannot afford to lose the support of the US arms industry.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Tangential conversation, but I might actually disagree with you there. The modern web browser is the gateway to easily the vast majority of content consumption and creation tools currently in existence. They can be compared in terms of whether control of such can sway the balance of power in a grander scheme.

The web browser is easier to replace than almost any of those things, though. I regularly use 2 or even 3 different web browsers on the same computer and another on my phone. If Chrome went away, there’d Be basically no impact on my life. Same not true for operating systems as it’s harder to switch.

> The web browser is easier to replace than almost any of those things, though. I regularly use 2 or even 3 different web browsers on the same computer and another on my phone. If Chrome went away, there’d Be basically no impact on my life. Same not true for operating systems as it’s harder to switch.

I'm not so sure. Yeah you could fork Chromium or Firefox (the only two browsers left), but "web standards" have ballooned and gotten so bloated that you'd need a pretty significant engineering organization to manage to support it yourself.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Healthy business rivalry is good, systematic theft and cloning of superior products is what we’re talking about here and huawei absolutely deserves the “corporate death penalty” for its behavior.

What if the Chinese government is working overtime to prevent the superior companies from reaching their markets? Should the Chinese people be stuck with inferior products? I'm not condoning it at all but this is about more than just Huawei. China is doing this with more than just Huawei, anyway, just take a look at what COMAC has been doing.

That's a losing battle, there's no point in fighting for the Chinese market since it's not a real market. The winner there will always be a state controlled entity until the political environment changes. But Chinese companies should absolutely be barred from doing business outside of China as their influence is toxic to democracy and freedom.

When things change, so I will change my mind.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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The issue with Huawei is that they are actually 4 years ahead in terms of infrastructure technology compared to any american company.

American companies are not behind, they don't exist. US companies can't compete in the market where they don't exist. Qualcomm sells components, not mobile networks. There are only four big companies left for for 4G/LTE/5G mobile infrastructure: COMPANY MARKET SHARE Huawei 28% Ericsson 27% Nokia 23% ZTE 13% Samsung 3%

Market share is not very telling in case of Huawei, as they're notorious for dumping expensed by subsidies awarded by the Chinese regime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Huawei

If the Chinese regime throws cash at a company to buy themselves into a dominant position to play their role in a geopolitical game, market share means nothing.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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It’s okay to have differing views, Wang.

Using someone's name like that crosses into personal attack and even harassment. That's not ok on HN, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I don’t agree with this. It is literally his username. Have you ever seen that episode of The Office where Michael won’t call Mr. Brown by his name because he thinks it’s racist to do so? That’s what you’re doing here, Dang. It is not a personal attack unless you interpret it as such. Guidelines state to take the most charitable version of what one says. Do you think you’re doing that here?

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Using someone's name like that crosses into personal attack and even harassment. That's not ok on HN, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I don’t agree with this. It is literally his username. Have you ever seen that episode of The Office where Michael won’t call Mr. Brown by his name because he thinks it’s racist to do so? That’s what you’re doing here, Dang. It is not a personal attack unless you interpret it as such. Guidelines state to take the most charitable version of what one says. Do you think you’re doing that here?

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