The issue with Huawei is that they are actually 4 years ahead in terms of infrastructure technology compared to any american company.
What is this claim based from? They may be 4 years ahead in surveillance technology, I’ll give you that.
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#42That's going to be awfully hard to do since we decided it was better to make things overseas because it's cheaper and we didn't have to pay so many in-house engineers.
We make the things that make the things though, so if we just don't ship the meta-machines over seas, we'll be fine.
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#43I'm curious what the perceived endgame is here.
Is it to sink a specific company? Send a message to a country with clear military aspirations? Reshore the semiconductor industry? Play to the president's political base? What?
If the goal is to reshore the semiconductor manufacturing industry, that's not going to work. Every country will have a competitive advantage in manufacturing against the US for as long as it prints the global reserve currency.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are referring to Microsoft, then yes, the US and Europe both prosecuted them and placed restrictions on them.
Microsoft? It’s not the nineties. Try Google.
Actually, Google is illicitly leveraging its monopoly on web search traffic, not operating systems.
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#45> It announced new rules that target Huawei’s in-house microchips, which power many of the firm’s products. The rules are aimed at the factories that take such designs and turn them into working silicon, such as those owned by TSMC in Taiwan and SMIC in China. Out of curiosity, what's the legal basis for this? Is it just a threat, and if companines like TSMC don't follow it, they'll also be blacklisted from the US ma…
Can the US afford to blacklist TSMC from anything?
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#46The issue with Huawei is that they are actually 4 years ahead in terms of infrastructure technology compared to any american company.
How come? Everything they’ve got they just stole from other entities. Unless there’s a European company 4 year ahead this is just impossible. Plus I reject this notion off hand as huawei ships famously half baked and buggy software with their equipment.
> Everything they’ve got they just stole from other entities.
Is this true, though?
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about a company leveraging its monopoly on operating systems to illicitly gain an advantage in other markets, say ... webbrowsers? Should we nuke them?
Well, "nuke" might be the wrong word, but doesn't it depend on the end goal? The EU seems to be taking the "extract wealth" approach, and just as with destabilization, is there anything wrong with that? I'm not answering the question; I'm asking it. I guess my overarching question in the end is whether or not it should be left up to the free market to resolve an issue that's spawned from an entity operating "outside"…
Fair enough. Bomb 'em.
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#49> It announced new rules that target Huawei’s in-house microchips, which power many of the firm’s products. The rules are aimed at the factories that take such designs and turn them into working silicon, such as those owned by TSMC in Taiwan and SMIC in China. Out of curiosity, what's the legal basis for this? Is it just a threat, and if companines like TSMC don't follow it, they'll also be blacklisted from the US ma…
The legal basis is that companies which violate US sanctions are not allowed to operate in the US, or transact business using financial services companies which operate in the US. That applies even if no part of the transaction passes through US territory.
It's unfair that non-US companies must annoy Huawei. Non-US companies usually don't benefit from this. It's like forcing foreigners to be part of your army.
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#50https://outline.com/cxJ47a Is there a link to what this new rule, is exactly? The article states it in one line but doesn't reference it beyond that.
I think it’s this rule.[1] The Commerce Department’s press release[2] summarizes the new rule/licensing requirements.
[1]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/05/19/2020-10...
[2]https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2020/05/commerc...