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America is determined to sink Huawei

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Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Post by ciarannolan »

the-dude wrote: post #13
eganist wrote: post #9

This may be a bit of pro-USA or pro-Western favoritism on my part, but if a company is getting away with illicitly gaining access to trade secrets in order to build a competitive advantage while shielded by its home country (not the best example, but t-mobile v. huawei - I imagine plenty of others are classified), is it in-scope for opposing nations to destabilize the company responsible for doing so?

How about a company leveraging its monopoly on operating systems to illicitly gain an advantage in other markets, say ... webbrowsers? Should we nuke them?

Companies who make a web browser and a company that builds the hardware backbone of a nation's internet are not even comparable.

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Post by theredbox »

vinay427 wrote: post #16
rafaelreinert wrote: post #6

U.S.A, not America, here in Brazil we haven’t any issue with Huawei

This again? I think your point is appropriate when speaking Spanish, Portuguese (EDIT: not Portuguese), etc. However, in common English (no, not just in the US) the word "America" more often refers to the USA. Languages don't use the same or derivative words for many other countries as well.

Can confirm. Eastern european here. America refers to the US of A. If we want to be explicit about the other america we say South America.

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Post by luckydata »

sand_castles wrote: post #12

I know many ppl are going to defend "America" here. But remember who you are defending. Great power rivalry is bad for corporate profit and amazing for wage laborer, which most of HN is. If you are an worker in North America, this type of headline should be a moment of celebration.

Healthy business rivalry is good, systematic theft and cloning of superior products is what we’re talking about here and huawei absolutely deserves the “corporate death penalty” for its behavior.

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Post by eganist »

ciarannolan wrote: post #21
the-dude wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about a company leveraging its monopoly on operating systems to illicitly gain an advantage in other markets, say ... webbrowsers? Should we nuke them?

Companies who make a web browser and a company that builds the hardware backbone of a nation's internet are not even comparable.

Tangential conversation, but I might actually disagree with you there. The modern web browser is the gateway to easily the vast majority of content consumption and creation tools currently in existence. They can be compared in terms of whether control of such can sway the balance of power in a grander scheme.

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Post by FrankBooth »

ensignavenger wrote: post #18
the-dude wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about a company leveraging its monopoly on operating systems to illicitly gain an advantage in other markets, say ... webbrowsers? Should we nuke them?

If you are referring to Microsoft, then yes, the US and Europe both prosecuted them and placed restrictions on them.

Microsoft? It’s not the nineties. Try Google.

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Post by luckydata »

sophieRu wrote: post #3

The issue with Huawei is that they are actually 4 years ahead in terms of infrastructure technology compared to any american company.

How come? Everything they’ve got they just stole from other entities. Unless there’s a European company 4 year ahead this is just impossible. Plus I reject this notion off hand as huawei ships famously half baked and buggy software with their equipment.

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Post by chrisco255 »

rafaelreinert wrote: post #6

U.S.A, not America, here in Brazil we haven’t any issue with Huawei

We chose a really difficult country name to create an identity around. United States of America citizen just doesn't have the same ring to it as American does. Meanwhile, you know, we also stole Amazon as a word to mean something totally different than a river and region in Brazil.

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Post by ddoolin »

luckydata wrote: post #23
sand_castles wrote: post #12

I know many ppl are going to defend "America" here. But remember who you are defending. Great power rivalry is bad for corporate profit and amazing for wage laborer, which most of HN is. If you are an worker in North America, this type of headline should be a moment of celebration.

Healthy business rivalry is good, systematic theft and cloning of superior products is what we’re talking about here and huawei absolutely deserves the “corporate death penalty” for its behavior.

What if the Chinese government is working overtime to prevent the superior companies from reaching their markets? Should the Chinese people be stuck with inferior products? I'm not condoning it at all but this is about more than just Huawei. China is doing this with more than just Huawei, anyway, just take a look at what COMAC has been doing.
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