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Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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I've been very impressed with reclaimthenets stories recently, some big revelations.

This is certainly a convenient opportunity for every First Amendment advocate to defend speech they don't like. Or would be, if the government was the one taking action.

You are not even responding to my comment. Post your paid-for derails elsewhere. Shoo, shoo!

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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This is crossing a very bad line, and is absolutely unacceptable. My company of about 50 people on G-Suite will be canceling our subscription and moving to Office 365 within the next three months. We had discussed it in the past due to their history of flagrant disregard for the security and privacy standards we require, but this has galvanized the conversation and we're prioritizing it on the near-term now. I'm sure…

The future is all about self hosting and/or peer to peer technology not controlled by a central authority.

Also the past or the present, if you choose to.

Most people don't, and get surprised when they find out the difference.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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It's not entirely clear to me, but did Google delete the file from the user's personal, private drive, or did they delete public access to the file? Because the former is unacceptable, but the latter is not as big a deal at all.

How is (what is basically) a unilaterally executed "gag order" not a big deal?

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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I did not expect to see platform censorship accelerate at this rate. It always seems to be government and media dictating the terms of the censorship as well, which should be very concerning.

> It always seems to be government and media dictating the terms of the censorship as well, which should be very concerning.

I'm not incredibly shocked. This is on some levels history repeating itself. Media has historically been 'self-regulating', if only because they want to avoid having regulations imposed on them.

However, this also has the not-unintentional side effect of those self regulating bodies also acting as gatekeepers.

Another parallel to draw: When the Hays code was challenged due to 1FA, the MPAA created the 'rating' system, in which movies have their content rated on by an unknown group of people impose their moral code, and remember before the age of the internet, you -had- to hit certain ratings to have any hope of a decent number of people seeing your movie. Any Adults-only rating would result in the overwhelming majority of theaters refusing to show the film.

Sure, you could still release it somewhere else.

Sound familiar?

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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Nobody's stopping them from signing up for AWS and throwing the vid into an S3 bucket or whatever, nor are they prevented from buying internet access from a company that offers static IPs and serving the file from an old PC in someone's closet.

Until AWS and that ISP apply the same policy...

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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This is crossing a very bad line, and is absolutely unacceptable. My company of about 50 people on G-Suite will be canceling our subscription and moving to Office 365 within the next three months. We had discussed it in the past due to their history of flagrant disregard for the security and privacy standards we require, but this has galvanized the conversation and we're prioritizing it on the near-term now. I'm sure…

The future is all about self hosting and/or peer to peer technology not controlled by a central authority.

I don't know, I think p2p is more a meme. Sure, it has its use cases but for "muh decentralization of authority", I don't think the future will consist of p2p tech. Just look at BitChute and Steemit.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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It's not entirely clear to me, but did Google delete the file from the user's personal, private drive, or did they delete public access to the file? Because the former is unacceptable, but the latter is not as big a deal at all.

The trouble is where do they draw the line. Say I share a pamphlet about how Jesus reclaims humanity from the corruption of sin. If Google thinks all Christians are superstitious bumpkins, does that give them the right to remove my public share?

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Network topological discovery is the hard pill to swallow with p2p based tech. You're paying for it in much higher network bandwidth, cpu, battery, and more. Eventually the tradeoffs will be so minuscule that they will be a rounding error. But right now, that's not true.

The harder pill is IPv4 and NAT. It used to be easier to grab a static IP from your ISP, but those days are gone for many of us. IPv6 could really foster a home network revolution, when it's finally in place 20 years from now.

I don't buy that NAT is a huge roadblock. A VPS is $5/mo, or dynamic DNS plus port forwarding is free. Either way, an ISP can apply the same reasoning and cut off access. Centralization due to using DNS (or raw IPs) for naming is the problem. Censorship resistance comes from there being a swarm that as a whole cannot be taken down, while members come and go. This requires a decentralized namespace for referencing content.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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This is crossing a very bad line, and is absolutely unacceptable. My company of about 50 people on G-Suite will be canceling our subscription and moving to Office 365 within the next three months. We had discussed it in the past due to their history of flagrant disregard for the security and privacy standards we require, but this has galvanized the conversation and we're prioritizing it on the near-term now. I'm sure…

The future is all about self hosting and/or peer to peer technology not controlled by a central authority.

Self hosting was 20 years ago. Who do you think is better at running a mail server, you or Google? Do you want to deal with spam complaints, security, OS upgrades, DMARC, SPF, etc? It's all a pain.

FYI I run my own mail servers as a hobby, but still have my main personal account on gmail.

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