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EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by ken »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #71
capableweb wrote: post #9

One of the best things that could happen to the gaming landscape would be if companies like EA and similar learned from Microsoft's move to open sourcing more software and involving the community more gives them a lot more goodwill and business as a side-effect. And then us gamers get more long-lived games as a benefit as well.

I wonder if we could create a tax incentive for this. For example, if a publisher commits to open sourcing N years after release, they get a break on sales. Or get to capitalise R&D more aggressively during development.

"You can't take a dying project, sprinkle it with the magic pixie dust of "open source," and have everything magically work out." -- jwz, 1999

Create that tax incentive, and 99% of publishers will slap the "open source" label on something 5 or 10 years old which is completely unmaintained, unusably buggy, and virtually unreadable. Nothing of value will be gained, and big companies will have yet another tax loophole.

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by meddlepal »

malux85 wrote: post #198
alexeldeib wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From GitHub: Electronic Arts: 27 repos Azure: 1.8k repos n.b., I work in Azure, make your own conclusions.

Typical Azure response, this is such a summary of azure it’s funny. Chose some metric where you look good and tout that as the deciding factor. Ignore the fact that the metric is irrelevant, and hope that your reductive (and incorrect) summary gains momentum among the masses who are too intellectually lazy to think for themselves and just want a number to trumpet on the front lines Also ignore the fact that your inco…

> Microsoft is garbage and you know it, that’s why you use gmail.

Hot take. How about simply that they have had their email address a lot longer than they've worked at Microsoft?

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by jzebedee »

malux85 wrote: post #198
alexeldeib wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From GitHub: Electronic Arts: 27 repos Azure: 1.8k repos n.b., I work in Azure, make your own conclusions.

Typical Azure response, this is such a summary of azure it’s funny. Chose some metric where you look good and tout that as the deciding factor. Ignore the fact that the metric is irrelevant, and hope that your reductive (and incorrect) summary gains momentum among the masses who are too intellectually lazy to think for themselves and just want a number to trumpet on the front lines Also ignore the fact that your inco…

Did someone forget?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm really not sure where your vitriol for Azure is coming from. If you want to respond to the point, you should -- if you can avoid going off because you have an axe to grind with Microsoft.

And the point about emails is a real head-scratcher. Most of us have been online for a long, long time. I expect there are quite a few people working at Big X with a @hotmail, @gmail, @yahoo, hell, @sbcglobal personal email that they use for the rest of their online life.

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by nindalf »

malux85 wrote: post #198
alexeldeib wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From GitHub: Electronic Arts: 27 repos Azure: 1.8k repos n.b., I work in Azure, make your own conclusions.

Typical Azure response, this is such a summary of azure it’s funny. Chose some metric where you look good and tout that as the deciding factor. Ignore the fact that the metric is irrelevant, and hope that your reductive (and incorrect) summary gains momentum among the masses who are too intellectually lazy to think for themselves and just want a number to trumpet on the front lines Also ignore the fact that your inco…

This kind of attack is uncalled for. Please avoid this.

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by nindalf »

gitgud wrote: post #190
enitihas wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Microsoft has not open sourced anything that was making $ for them. Neither windows nor any part of office, or any part of enterprise suite. What Microsoft has open sourced are things where similar stuff was already open source, and Microsoft wouldn't have made much money selling those. e.g, VSCode, tyepscript. EA also open sources stuff like that. They even have open sourced a java library to be able to write as…

VSCode was a fork of the open-source project Atom, and it was never closed-source as far as I know.

VSCode was not a fork of Atom. They started afresh. This is possibly why it’s much more performant than Atom.

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by Jyaif »

gentleman11 wrote: post #45
uncheckederror wrote: post #34

I am really impressed that EA went with the GPL v3 license. I would have expected them to use the MIT license.

They probably want it to remain free, and not get bundled into commercial projects. Great for end users though

If destroy any possible commercial projects, it's not necessarily good for end users.

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by chii »

dependenttypes wrote: post #185
alexeldeib wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From GitHub: Electronic Arts: 27 repos Azure: 1.8k repos n.b., I work in Azure, make your own conclusions.

The difference is that Electronic arts publishes things that I might actually use, unlike Azure.

there are plenty of use cases for the azure stuff, even if you personally don't see a use for it.

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by saberdancer »

meddlepal wrote: post #202
malux85 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typical Azure response, this is such a summary of azure it’s funny. Chose some metric where you look good and tout that as the deciding factor. Ignore the fact that the metric is irrelevant, and hope that your reductive (and incorrect) summary gains momentum among the masses who are too intellectually lazy to think for themselves and just want a number to trumpet on the front lines Also ignore the fact that your inco…

> Microsoft is garbage and you know it, that’s why you use gmail. Hot take. How about simply that they have had their email address a lot longer than they've worked at Microsoft?

Some even prefer to use a different email service other than the one run by their employer.

Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by [deleted] »

jzebedee wrote: post #203
malux85 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typical Azure response, this is such a summary of azure it’s funny. Chose some metric where you look good and tout that as the deciding factor. Ignore the fact that the metric is irrelevant, and hope that your reductive (and incorrect) summary gains momentum among the masses who are too intellectually lazy to think for themselves and just want a number to trumpet on the front lines Also ignore the fact that your inco…

Did someone forget? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I'm really not sure where your vitriol for Azure is coming from. If you want to respond to the point, you should -- if you can avoid going off because you have an axe to grind with Microsoft. And the point about emails is a real head-scratcher. Most of us have been online for a long, long time. I expect there are quite a few people working at Big X…

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Re: EA will be releasing the C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert source code under GPL3

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Post by thomasz »

postalrat wrote: post #193
apetresc wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What "platform" of theirs has MSFT open sourced? Which of those were an important platform of MSFT? Uhh, .NET?

I thought mono was developed by a team outside Microsoft.

Microsoft open sourced all of dotnet. Runtime, class library, everything.
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