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Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by rtkwe »

karatestomp wrote: post #731
rtkwe wrote: post #386

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That's mixing the medium and the content to me like how Art Deco isn't just architecture it's a style.

If they broadcast them over radio, is it still a podcast? Emailed out the audio files to a mailing list? Distributed them on cassette tape? It seems to me the format is part of it. RSS or something equivalent (Atom), feeding audio files to whatever client you bring, is a podcast. Youtube videos aren't podcasts just because I listen to them in the background (though one might also have a youtube video of one's podcast…

The main thrust of what I'm saying is that RSS is a very very specific part of just the distribution of the actual content. Everything except the RSS and use any app is there on Spotify; the functionality of an open app (download, speeds, RSS feeds etc.), the content style, etc.

Personally I'm not a fan of Spotify locking down podcasts because I do like that I can use whatever app I like but I'm not going to call something not a podcast because it's annoying to get.

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Post by DuskStar »

Dobbs wrote: post #605
gadders wrote: post #573

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Count Dankula was a big case as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Meechan#Arrest

He was arrested and convicted for literally saying "gas the jews". That is inciting violence, and a very clear case of hate speech.

"My GF thinks this pug is the cutest thing ever, so I'm going to make it the least cute thing in history - a Nazi"

And then trained it to react to things like "Gas the Jews" and "Sieg Heil". This is not at all a central example of speech inciting violence.

Funnily enough, Nazi Germany also tried to prosecute someone for training a dog to salute when Hitler was mentioned [0] - apparently that was disrespectful.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_(dog)

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by meheleventyone »

mythrwy wrote: post #723
meheleventyone wrote: post #556

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Because we have decided that after decades of bigotry, violence and discrimination that the rights of gay people to their life supersede the rights of free association for public businesses.

We have? Can you show me a national law in the US that says restaurants have to serve gays? See how the "it's a private business so they can discriminate!" works? Keep in mind, as you mention, the shoe has been on the other foot and it will be again. It's better to enshrine and uphold these principals at all times. Not be like a dirty cop planting evidence because "he knows the suspect did it" and try to get to "Righ…

Why do you think I’m talking about the US? There’s a whole world out there.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by mythrwy »

meheleventyone wrote: post #743
mythrwy wrote: post #723

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We have? Can you show me a national law in the US that says restaurants have to serve gays? See how the "it's a private business so they can discriminate!" works? Keep in mind, as you mention, the shoe has been on the other foot and it will be again. It's better to enshrine and uphold these principals at all times. Not be like a dirty cop planting evidence because "he knows the suspect did it" and try to get to "Righ…

Why do you think I’m talking about the US? There’s a whole world out there.

In that case "We" haven't decided anything at all what you suggest.

But now you and I are in the weeds.

I hope you see my point, that's all. Discrimination isn't good. Even if you don't agree with the other party.

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Post by carapace »

fareesh wrote: post #673
carapace wrote: post #499

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He was bragging the other day about eating his neighbors.

Ezekiel 5:10

I don't see the connection. That passage isn't advocating cannibalism, it is portraying it as a divine punishment.

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by swinglock »

chundicus wrote: post #213
busymom0 wrote: post #122

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

I don't agree entirely with all these, but I think 3 is the most compelling. It was kind of magical to younger me discovering the interoperability of podcasts and the freedom that granted listeners (and creators too). I've been a big fan of Spotify, but I don't like this recent push to fracture the podcast market with exclusive deals. That being said it does allow some podcasts to exist that might not otherwise. The…

I remember podcasts. Exclusively streamed audio isn't a podcast.

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Post by zajd »

chroma wrote: post #572
zajd wrote: post #554

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> "Hope they [ie, Celtic supporters] all die. Simple. Catholic scumbags ha ha." This is non-violent political speech?

Robert Watts said this about the draft during the Vietnam war: > They always holler at us to get an education. And now I have already received my draft classification as 1—A and I have got to report for my physical this Monday coming. I am not going. If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J. L.B.J. meaning president Lyndon B. Johnson. Watts did this in front of a crowd whil…

I agree it's political speech, but it's definitely not "non-violent". If you try to provide examples of non-violent political speech and your first example is someone calling for the deaths of Catholics as group... well, I dunno, seems like maybe there's a better tack to take.

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Post by paulcole »

mythrwy wrote: post #732
paulcole wrote: post #730

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I was replying to what you specifically said: > Couldn't you make the same argument about gay couples in a small town rural restaurant? And the answer is "no, you can't."

Well actually yes, you very clearly could. Perhaps the restaurant is in a religiously conservative community and people won't eat there with their children if the restaurant has openly gay couples in attendance. So the gay couples being in the restaurant could negatively impact business. What law prevents this? I'm not sure there is one in most of the U.S. Twitter and Reddit's opinion aren't so far law. So the bottom…

> About 20 states, including New York and California, have enacted laws that prohibit discrimination in public accommodations based on sexual orientation

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/the-right-to-refuse-servi...

You learned something today!

Re: Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by gen3 »

mike_d wrote: post #464
gen3 wrote: post #162

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I’m having a hard time making sense of this. He certainly isn’t without bias (no one is), but he has brought a wide variety of people on the show (Bernie Sanders, Andrew Yang, Ben Shapiro). I don’t follow him heavily, but from the interviews I’ve seen, he just seems to try to get the guest to talk.

> he has brought a wide variety of people on the show That is exactly the problem. You can't be "fair" and balance out Neil deGrasse Tyson by giving equal time to a flat earther. I have no issue with Alex Jones being given a platform in a forum such as the Howard Stern show, which is intentionally not taken seriously. But Joe Rogan has stepped away from his comedy roots and is talking authoritatively about health, ph…

I would say it’s up to the viewer to decide what to take seriously. I wouldn’t listen to the flat earther for geographic information, but to better understand why they think that way. By better understanding their thought process, you have a better chance of explaining to them the holes in their theories. I personally don’t know why someone would be a flat earther, and am curious to know why.

You could look at it another way. A flat earther might watch his buddies episode, enjoy the Joe Rogan format, then watch the recommended Neil deGrasse Tyson episode. This would expose them to concepts that can help them see the error of their way.

I think it boils down to people thinking for themselves and deciding which episodes are for pondering vs which are for entertainment. Plus, who gets to decide what’s too “out there” for the show. A lot of the information dropped by Snowden was considered tin foil hat before the leak.

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Post by willis936 »

free_rms wrote: post #323
Ididntdothis wrote: post #149

This quote caught my eye: "At the time, the Human Rights Campaign said Sanders “must reconsider” the endorsement, stating that Rogan has “attacked transgender people, gay men, women, people of color and countless marginalized groups at every opportunity.”" If they attack somebody like Rogan in this way, it's no wonder that a lot of people are getting tired of political correctness and move the other direction.

The kicker is, they got their way, and we've got notable woke icon.. checks notes.. Joe Biden as the nominee instead.

Spoiler effect: rendered. This why it’s important to stick to your own party if you need to keep FPTP. An echo chamber is literally better than being interfered with.

Were any good points made? Did anyone learn anything? No. It was just a facade to help their own tribe.

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