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Post by draw_down »

Thorentis wrote: post #190

It's fascinating to see these tech giants fight each other for control over the Internet empire. Eventually I think we will see 1 by 1 they will fall, and a couple will remain. This is Facebook's attempt to take on Amazon and Google both at once, and given their huge user base and method of engagement, they may just have a shot at it. I can see it now. Scroll Instagram to see photos of your friends wearing new clothe…

They all try and use their strengths to wander into each other’s territory, often unsuccessfully. Both Amazon and FB tried it with phones, for example. I think it’s all just as likely to end in stalemate.

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Post by yalok »

koolba wrote: post #72

This is long overdue. I bet they’re working on a PayPal competitor and eventually their own in-house data driven credit system. If you think you were being tracked across every mouse hover and scroll now, imagine what it’ll look like when there’s this much on the line.

they tried and I think still trying to roll out Libra...

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Post by JSavageOne »

72deluxe wrote: post #209
oblio wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have always thought about what it would take for Whatsapp to lose their place as the dominant chat app and you finally nailed it. Unfortunately, that's not how these things work. I don't know of any mainstream platform that died because of ads. You have to keep in mind the fact that the average person on this site has a total different attitude to technology and its warts than most other people.

Tangentially, I know they mentioned the "adpocolypse" for YouTube but recently it's insane the amount of adverts being shown. It's really putting me off using it. But as you say, mainstream platforms with no competitors seem to get away with it.

Why not just use an adblocker?

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Post by CraneWorm »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #204
oblio wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have always thought about what it would take for Whatsapp to lose their place as the dominant chat app and you finally nailed it. Unfortunately, that's not how these things work. I don't know of any mainstream platform that died because of ads. You have to keep in mind the fact that the average person on this site has a total different attitude to technology and its warts than most other people.

> I don't know of any mainstream platform that died because of ads. * Traditional television. * Online websites of traditional newspapers - they wouldn’t have moved to paywalling if advertising was working. * MySpace (not directly, but a contributory factor).

> they wouldn’t have moved to paywalling if advertising was working

they surely make something on advertising because the ads are present even behind the paywalls.

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Post by Traster »

_2d30 wrote: post #158
Traster wrote: post #151

That advert is an incredibly tone deaf advert. Support the little guy! Yes, support little Mark Zuckerberg and his sole control of a $600Bn company. Has it ever occured to anyone in a multi billion dollar corporation that maybe it doesn't come across well to pretend you're fighting for the little guy. Why not take a break for once and just say "Hey, we're fucking enormous, no one even browses the web anymore, they br…

As always, when you’re everyone’s favorite punching bag: damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Would love to know how you got to them taking 90% of the profits. Are they even charging commissions or is this a scheme to drive more ads purchases?

I love it, spend a decade engaging in scummy behaviour, and then have people completely ignore that and claim that you're just a punching bag. Do you know how you become the everyone's favourite punching bag? Stand by and watch whilst people use your platform to commit genocide, and then tell everyone you're looking out for the little guy.

Damned if you do enable a genocide, damned if you... oh no, just the first one.

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Post by wastedhours »

phreack wrote: post #184
saadalem wrote: post #117

Small businesses operated either individually or by less than 10 people. A bunch of customers buy products/services from these businesses. So they need a better way to: Engage with their customers Sell and manage product/service deliveries Target specific customer audience Show products/services availability Whatsapp could be the right solution not facebook apps. Also a combination of Yelp and Facebook/Whatsapp could…

I have always thought about what it would take for Whatsapp to lose their place as the dominant chat app and you finally nailed it. If I ever start getting ads or requests for reviews or anything remotely related to someone selling something to me, as a personal message because of automated Facebook tools, I'd get myself and everyone I know off the platform in a matter of seconds. On the other hand, for information r…

When we were in Vietnam we organised all of our transport over WhatsApp, except for the billing which we then had to go to a (it felt sketchy, but probably wasn't) online payment form.

If that had been baked into the conversations it would have been one of the best customer experiences we could have hoped for. Appreciate feature creep would then be a concern, but depending on how they could limit it, it could be absolutely fantastic.

(We then also got "personalised" follow up messages asking us to review, which is somewhat inevitable - but that had to be done on a case by case basis. I agree, we could only put with with a small amount of automation before things turn south quickly).

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Post by tdrgabi »

JSavageOne wrote: post #213
72deluxe wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tangentially, I know they mentioned the "adpocolypse" for YouTube but recently it's insane the amount of adverts being shown. It's really putting me off using it. But as you say, mainstream platforms with no competitors seem to get away with it.

Why not just use an adblocker?

Harder to do in the youtube app. You need a pihole server.

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Post by busymom0 »

mnehring wrote: post #172

Has anyone seen anything specifically mentioned about an API? I did a quick search and didn't see anything mentioned, but if they integrated with 3rd party tools, either they have an API or they already programmed a feed scraping tool of some sort. I suppose if there is an API, but they haven't released public documentation, it might be possible to find out details about many of the endpoint from WooCommerce's code.

As someone who’s been burnt by using their IG API before when they decided to shut it down out of nowhere, I won’t trust their API for this.

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Post by 72deluxe »

tdrgabi wrote: post #218
JSavageOne wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just use an adblocker?

Harder to do in the youtube app. You need a pihole server.

I have one of those but I can't seem to block them effectively. I think the advert URLs are not specific to adverts, ie they're the same as normal YouTube videos.

Any tips??

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