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Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by pedrocx486 »

ericax wrote: post #178

Notion is great, I used to want to build my knowledge base in it, but figured it's not future-proof enough for my needs. And that's part of the reason we went on to build Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md/ ), the local-first knowledge base app. Everything is in plain text Markdown. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/zof4zCj.png Just released 0.6.0 and here's a video for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA…

Writing my things in markdown is something I always wanted to do but found sorta difficult to manage in day to day scenarios. Obsidian got me crazy excited, just placed an request for beta access!

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Post by habosa »

Notion is just a fantastic piece of software and the team seems focused on making it better and cheaper at the same time. They should be unequivocally congratulated for this and I wish them more success.

Also if you ever change your mind on hiring outside of SF, call me :-)

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Post by bradgessler »

pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

I feel like Dropbox Paper strikes a great balance. If you drop certain links in a Paper doc, like a Figma or Google Docs Spreadsheet, it will show either an iframe or screenshot read-only representation of the current content with a link to it.

My only beef with Dropbox Paper is their iOS apps are buggy as hell and have been for a few years. I really wish they’d invest more in their native apps.

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by hinkley »

gkoberger wrote: post #53
avolcano wrote: post #5

This is kinda weird, because I was happily giving them $4/month after running out of space in their trial plan, and now I absolutely have no reason to keep giving them money. Which, sure, I guess I'll take it. My $4/month isn't going to make or break their business and they probably barely give a shit about getting money for personal usage. Does remind me that my usage of their app doesn't align with their business m…

Github just did the same thing! It’s because the math works like this: They’d need 1,000 people to pay them $4 to match a single enterprise company paying them $4k/mo. So they just need one of those 1,000 people to bring Notion into their company, and they’re ahead. If they get 10, they’re way ahead. (This is slightly simplified, of course)

More than that, because account management and dealing with billing problems is not free.

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Post by pedrocx486 »

fastball wrote: post #312
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just because it's annoying doesn't mean it's a dark pattern in the typical sense of the word. I'm happy to include multiple forms of coercion; the pattern here is the ratchet: https://jacquesmattheij.com/dark-patterns-the-ratchet/ > It's just a little annoying thing that bugs you until you do what they want. That's a nice summary of a class of dark patterns, yes. > It's not unethical, but if you don't like it you s…

What exactly is your definition of ethical? Because a little box at the bottom of a webpage that just sits there does not really cross the unethical line for me. For me, this is only a dark pattern if the cookie banner makes the site unusable (as many sites do) until you click "Yes". Ours clearly does not. Regardless, the initial accusation was: > If you're not giving people a choice, why even pretend? Which is clear…

I don't have a horse in this discussion but...

> There is a very real choice

I don't see a 'No' button... I love the app, really, but that isn't nice. Also a GDPR violation for those in the EU.

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Post by lukestevens »

pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

Notion recently published "How Notion Uses Notion" [0] which I found insightful in terms of how Notion's flexibility is put to work internally.

It's interesting seeing where teams hit the limits of the tool & wish for (or move to) something else though. I wonder if "The Notion Way" will emerge at some point, which would be useful for quickly qualifying yourself in or out.

[0] https://www.notion.so/How-Notion-Uses-Notion-616f41d2f5124f3...

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