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Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by [deleted] »

qrt wrote: post #305
pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

“One platform for all my data with specialized tools to deal with different kinds of data. I can imagine tools like Tello, Jira, Hubspot, Google spreadsheets & draw.io running over it.” -> https://qatalog.com

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Post by fastball »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #299
anchpop wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because it's annoying doesn't mean it's a dark pattern in the typical sense of the word. Here's darkpatterns.org's definition: > Dark Patterns are tricks used in websites and apps that make you do things that you didn't mean to, like buying or signing up for something. And here is the one used by the verge [0]: > A dark pattern is a user interface carefully crafted to trick users into doing things they might not…

> Just because it's annoying doesn't mean it's a dark pattern in the typical sense of the word. I'm happy to include multiple forms of coercion; the pattern here is the ratchet: https://jacquesmattheij.com/dark-patterns-the-ratchet/ > It's just a little annoying thing that bugs you until you do what they want. That's a nice summary of a class of dark patterns, yes. > It's not unethical, but if you don't like it you s…

What exactly is your definition of ethical? Because a little box at the bottom of a webpage that just sits there does not really cross the unethical line for me.

For me, this is only a dark pattern if the cookie banner makes the site unusable (as many sites do) until you click "Yes". Ours clearly does not.

Regardless, the initial accusation was:

> If you're not giving people a choice, why even pretend?

Which is clearly not true. There is a very real choice – we are not pretending. Your choice matters.

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Post by zerubeus »

marvinblum wrote: post #210
zerubeus wrote: post #197

How this replaces Google Drive the other time I can't upload a file larger than 4gb ?!

It's not a replacement for Drive as most note taking app are... well for note taking and not file storages. I would recommend to use Dropbox if you want both in one tool or separate those two use cases.

https://www.notion.so/personal If you scroll down in this page you'll see they are saying it replace Google Drive

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Post by lethologica »

ericax wrote: post #178

Notion is great, I used to want to build my knowledge base in it, but figured it's not future-proof enough for my needs. And that's part of the reason we went on to build Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md/ ), the local-first knowledge base app. Everything is in plain text Markdown. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/zof4zCj.png Just released 0.6.0 and here's a video for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA…

This looks exactly like what I've been looking for for ages. Does it support MathJax of some sort?

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Post by MivLives »

Lightbody wrote: post #294
gkoberger wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Github just did the same thing! It’s because the math works like this: They’d need 1,000 people to pay them $4 to match a single enterprise company paying them $4k/mo. So they just need one of those 1,000 people to bring Notion into their company, and they’re ahead. If they get 10, they’re way ahead. (This is slightly simplified, of course)

The impressive thing here is that it's (sadly) pretty rare for a company to actively cease a revenue stream and think of the longer term benefits. GitHub and Notion are two recently examples, but for every one I see in the market, I can point to at least 10 that failed to take the obvious action.

In Github's case I feel like it helps that they have Microsoft backing them up. MS is much more used to this model, I imagine they make a ton more off enterprise licensing then they do off individually sold ones.

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Post by saralily »

asaddhamani wrote: post #186
arkitaip wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only on HN can people question the existence of an app which has 50M users. Trello might not be this month's flavor but I'll be damned if it's not one of the most useful planning tools out there.

I don't know how Trello has 50M users, and how so many people and companies can use it for project management. For anything more than a single board, I find it terribly lacking in functionality. Can't even see all your cards across boards without scrolling 50 times.

Lots of folks would argue that's a feature that exposes a problem in the conceptualization and modeling of a domain.

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Post by charlieegan3 »

jonpurdy wrote: post #290
ericax wrote: post #178

Notion is great, I used to want to build my knowledge base in it, but figured it's not future-proof enough for my needs. And that's part of the reason we went on to build Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md/ ), the local-first knowledge base app. Everything is in plain text Markdown. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/zof4zCj.png Just released 0.6.0 and here's a video for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA…

I like the idea of Notion, but one of things keeping me is that it seems like it'd be a pain to export one's data if Notion ever went out of business. But just keeping folders of Markdown notes is also inflexible, but on the opposite side of the scale. Obsidian looks like a great balance! I've requested beta access as well. Edit: Obsidian seems to make it easy to create a Zettelkasten, sort of like https://github.com…

Notion has HTML as well as CSV+Md. I export once a month and it appears to work ok.

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Post by ericax »

lethologica wrote: post #314
ericax wrote: post #178

Notion is great, I used to want to build my knowledge base in it, but figured it's not future-proof enough for my needs. And that's part of the reason we went on to build Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md/ ), the local-first knowledge base app. Everything is in plain text Markdown. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/zof4zCj.png Just released 0.6.0 and here's a video for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA…

This looks exactly like what I've been looking for for ages. Does it support MathJax of some sort?

Yep! Block math is already supported and inline math is coming very soon.

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Post by rfreiberger »

I've been a user of Notion for two years now switching from Evernote. But the biggest reason was for the tree view which in Evernote is only done using tags. Are there other note apps that off a tree view?

Also Notion seems to store code blocks without formatting them, I found that in Evernote, the backtick and single quotes would get formatted even inside a code block.

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Post by logicx24 »

nyxtom wrote: post #215

It actually deters me away that there is default content already there when I load the app. In my opinion, less is more and starting off with no content at all is a helpful cleaner alternative than having to delete all that default content.

Not sure about that. I got started in Notion by looking at the initial database they set up and modifying it to handle the use-case I was imagining. It was more effective than any tutorial would have been at helping me learn the product.
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