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Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by gurkendoktor »

nisuni wrote: post #38

If they only had a native Mac application. I love Notion, but the Mac client feels so sluggish, I didn’t investigative but looks like a web view or Electron or something similar.

I've been comparing Trello and Notion recently, and even though both use Electron, Trello feels infinitely faster.

Trello can be toggled with a global hotkey with absolutely no delay, while re-opening the Notion window or loading another Notion page takes quite a while. It is a day and night difference for note taking.

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Post by xet7 »

prennert wrote: post #87
Scarbutt wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the curse of Emacs.

I just started using orgmode to compliment notion. So far it feels to me as Notion is a bit like emacs / orgmode without API, and orgmode is a bit like notion without collaboration.

There is orgmode for web:

https://org-web.org

https://github.com/DanielDe/org-web

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Post by marktani »

anchpop wrote: post #262
rockostrich wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a UX dark pattern because (besides deleting the html element) there's no way to dismiss a call to action, you can only ignore it.

Just because it's annoying doesn't mean it's a dark pattern in the typical sense of the word. Here's darkpatterns.org's definition: > Dark Patterns are tricks used in websites and apps that make you do things that you didn't mean to, like buying or signing up for something. And here is the one used by the verge [0]: > A dark pattern is a user interface carefully crafted to trick users into doing things they might not…

> It's just a little annoying thing that bugs you until you do what they want.

Ah, cool then.

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Post by gurkendoktor »

zestyping wrote: post #219
brainzap wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss Trello: add task, edit, save.

Can anyone explain to me why Trello is so popular? I'm serious; I honestly don't get it. If I want to track tasks, I just make a Google Spreadsheet with a row for each task. This scales up easily to a hundred tasks or so, and it's straightforward to filter on a column to focus on particular categories or statuses. In Trello, I can see maybe 30 cards max before my screen space is all used up, and I spend so much time…

You are right that a spreadsheet gets more information on the screen, but Trello's kanban layout really highlights which task is "where" (in what state).

I've often used it with clients to let them know which high-level features are in progress, which are done, etc. It has also worked really well for collaborative trip planning. Both of these workflows benefit from cards with cover images too.

It's not a replacement for a company-wide knowledge base or an issue tracker for hundreds of tickets.

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Post by qrt »

pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

“One platform for all my data with specialized tools to deal with different kinds of data. I can imagine tools like Tello, Jira, Hubspot, Google spreadsheets & draw.io running over it.”

-> https://qatalog.com

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by nepthar »

I'd be grateful if one of you product design folks could explain the rampant use of emoji. I notice that most things incorporate emoji extensively these days. Has that been shown to boost engagement or something?

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Post by wh-uws »

zestyping wrote: post #219
brainzap wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss Trello: add task, edit, save.

Can anyone explain to me why Trello is so popular? I'm serious; I honestly don't get it. If I want to track tasks, I just make a Google Spreadsheet with a row for each task. This scales up easily to a hundred tasks or so, and it's straightforward to filter on a column to focus on particular categories or statuses. In Trello, I can see maybe 30 cards max before my screen space is all used up, and I spend so much time…

I like Trello A LOT have like 30 different boards with probably thousands of cards.

Why Trello over Sheets?

I use Trello as basically a really extensible digital kanban board.

It also makes easier to associate tasks with each other add extra context (for instance if I'm keeping track of some long form context associated with a task where would you put that in sheets? A note? Can you search those? Once it gets really long a Google doc? I guess).

Also can add custom fields. I used this to allow me to add weights to cards so they automatically rearrange in priority order.

I even have boards that serve as a personal knowledge base.

I feel like Trello gives you really great free reign to discover a process for things and have it evolve over time.

Could you accomplish that with sheets? Probably but not as elegantly and definitely not with a UI

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Post by tptacek »

scblzn wrote: post #282

I tried it around November 2019, really liked Notion and the UI/UX of the product for some note taking/personal knowledge base, however I had to contact their security team through their support because TLS 1.0 was still enabled at this time. They say they are audited by NCC ( https://www.notion.so/Security-6c56b4854b624b0d8f36711018647... ) but I don't know how NCC missed this. They disabled TLS 1.0 few days after m…

Virtually no mainstream platforms enable DNSSEC (what's the largest one you can find? It won't be in the Moz 500); it's not as if there's a major competitor to Notion you'll find that is DNSSEC-signed. DNSSEC is moribund.

What's ironic about this comment is that in our present WebPKI, Somalia's ownership of .so only tangentially impacts their security (Somalia could in theory seize the domain and DV-verify a new cert). But in a DNSSEC world, Somalia would have de jure control over both the domain and Notion's TLS certificates, which would chain through DANE from the same root.

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Post by gemmtree »

qrt wrote: post #305
pcx wrote: post #49

I love using Notion, but I think the general discussion about it does not talk enough about how it's flexibility is also a problem many times. 1. Flexibility of blocks is a cognitive overhead for most folks in my team. They would rather prefer more constrained and opinionated approaches like Trello 2. Notion is currently a jack of all trades and master of none. We have tried to use it as a wiki, project tracker, issu…

“One platform for all my data with specialized tools to deal with different kinds of data. I can imagine tools like Tello, Jira, Hubspot, Google spreadsheets & draw.io running over it.” -> https://qatalog.com

that is really neat! but what apps can I connect to it? It says 9 providers but can’t see what they are

Re: Notion for everyone

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Post by aberry273 »

Notion is a great workspace app. I am extremely impressed with the polish and flexibility that it provides. I'm surprised they're opening up to everyone, but I guess - growth - is the goal for everyone so it makes sense.

I've been working on a similar app (https://usebustl.com) focusing on project management. However in doing so I've really come to appreciate how much of a quality product Notion is.

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