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Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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gowld wrote: post #44
nickff wrote: post #5

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My guess is that they will try to integrate Shopify sites into the platform, to give the FB Shops platform some momentum, then gradually push the non FBS stores down the page. My reasoning is that they are emulating Google. Alternatively, they could be looking to make FB Shops an advertising platform, similar to Amazon Seller Central, where they don't care who you buy from, but they want each seller to pay for ads an…

Amazon cares who you buy from. Amazon Basics pushes out sellers.

Not just Basics, they have so many other brands of their own that most customers will never even know that.

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Post by crazygringo »

swagonomixxx wrote: post #19

With the rise of services like Shopify, Etsy, etc. why are independent product manufacturers in the US / Europe still using Amazon? Is it the lack of the supply chain / item delivery that Amazon provides so well or is it something else? Hearing about how Amazon undercuts pretty much every seller on their system makes me think that sellers would be willing to jump in a heartbeat if given a viable alternative. Facebook…

Because that's where the customers are. Above all the Prime customers. And customers can have a lot more trust in Amazon's shipping speed and returns policy, than when ordering from an unknown.

A ton of people, when they want to buy something, put it into Amazon's search box. If a product doesn't show up there, it might as well not exist.

Also, Amazon reviews. I can't count the number of times I've chosen not to buy a product because Amazon's reviews warned me away. Ordering something from a small shop where there are no reviews, or the reviews seem fake or too positive? I feel like there's a much greater chance of being taken advantage of with a shoddy product.

End of the day, on Amazon I generally know exactly the quality I should expect, that it will arrive on time, and that I can return it if there are any issues.

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Post by type0 »

hckr_news wrote: post #68
runawaybottle wrote: post #48

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It also will blur the line between sponsored reviews and sales. So imagine when you watch a review for something on YouTube, or see someone share a product on Insta, you just straight up buy that item/service from their page. You’ll now have your payment hooked into these platforms and they can take advantage of serious impulse buying. Could subvert Patreon in a way also. The implications are there I think.

It looks quite seamless from first glance. Was eventually going to happen I think given how much time people spend on these platforms. Instagram influencers will have an easier time and may perhaps forgo Shopify-built sites for the sake of simplicity by routing fans to their Instagram marketplace. Can see YouTube introducing YouTube-shop to keep people within the Google ecosystem and compete with Facebook.

> Can see YouTube introducing YouTube-shop to keep people within the Google ecosystem and compete with Facebook.

Next, Youtube to partner with IKEA to bring you a virtual reality furniture shop /s

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Post by askafriend »

saltedonion wrote: post #102
carlinmack wrote: post #92

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Do you know about Facebook Watch, their streaming service with real original TV shows? Their switch from 'just' a social network was years and years ago

Didn’t know they had original TV shows, but I thought at least they will build social features into Watch. Shopping on the other hand, is a private and individualistic activity. I feel this is far removed from their core mission.

> Shopping on the other hand, is a private and individualistic activity.

Not for me. Especially if I'm buying something fun/non-boring.

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Post by cameronbrown »

jasonv wrote: post #46
seph-reed wrote: post #29

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> really smart Maybe effective? Smart implies a bit too much imo. For a while now, users have been using pages to promote their businesses and using FB pay for transactions. It seems this was inevitable, and I'm more surprising how long it took than how "really smart" it is.

I work in banking. Everything we do, that's easier elsewhere, is harder in banking, because it's a bank (regulated, money, etc). Everything Facebook builds has to scale to billions immediately. Could be a contributing factor to why it took them this long to do this.

Why would it? They can do controlled rollouts if they want. Core design has to scale, but I seriously doubt they'd be planning for millions/QPS right out the gate.

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Post by riazrizvi »

amelius wrote: post #139

Another BigCorp trying to put a gate around an existing market, this time it's retail. Yuck.

"Is your store doing well? Have you expanded to a couple of other locations successfully? Is it time for you to create a broader franchise? ... Don't worry, we've been watching, and we already made this information available to big stores in your area who were willing to pay for the privilege. That's why Big-store-chain is already negotiating a better contract with your supply chain. I hope you enjoyed it while it lasted. Thank you for your business." - American Edge. It's our edge, not yours.

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Post by type0 »

mikestew wrote: post #79
dmix wrote: post #57

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Indeed. What's the point of having values if you're not willing to be burdened with some costs? Since FB lacks strong values it gets imposed on the wider community, but such is life. The only true option is using or building alternatives. Trying to chain the monster, where every individual positive attributes always has to be controlled and directed from some other central body, whom we then also have to trust with e…

Are you replying to me, or just hijacking to make a general point? Because FB gets blocked at DNS at my house, I could have saved you some typing on "values".

One friend of mine was visiting and noticed the same thing on my wifi. We got into debate where he argued to be freedom loving individual and I being in support of censorship. Now okay, I backed down with my "censorship" but unfortunately to quote RMS it ended up being "negative in the freedom dimension". Kinda regret it now that I was kind enough to give wifi access.

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Post by boringg »

kamilszybalski wrote: post #76
jameslevy wrote: post #2

"We’re also working more closely with partners like Shopify, BigCommerce, WooCommerce..." Is Facebook Shops not a direct competitor to Shopify? Or is this just "embrace, extend, and extinguish"?

It's a really interesting question. My gut tells me that Shopify is looking for a suitor and this is facebook's way of de-risking (validating?) a potential investment.

Shopify is definitely not looking for a suitor - no way. They still have so much growth potential - that rocketship is looking to add more channels. Once on Shopify it's tough to leave - that whole switching cost.
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