Introducing Facebook Shops • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by flyGuyOnTheSly » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

Instagram shop charges 5%+ transaction fees... (more if the product is priced below $8) is this going to be the same pricing model?

Because if so it's a non-starter for myself and anyone comfortable with the stripe api and/or shopify at least.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

#12

Post by lykahb » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

The main source of revenue for FB is advertising. They are able to offer Facebook Shops at a loss to get the market share. Many small businesses are mainly present online as a shop on a platform and a FB page. This is bad news for Etsy.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

#13

Post by swagonomixxx » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:15 PM UTC

itsspring wrote: post #9

_jal wrote: post #6

A whole class of retailer that will be blocked at my router. The Balkanization is well underway.

My thoughts exactly. I’ve blocked Facebook in my DNS hosts file & thankfully Firefox has a Facebook fence to isolate their trackers.

Out of curiosity, has doing this disrupted your web browsing experience in any way? I'd like to do this but I'm kind of afraid of alienating 75% of the web that relies on the FB JS SDK for something (I'm not really sure if this is the case, but it might be?)

EDIT: thanks for the responses. Will block at DNS :)

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:16 PM UTC

I dislike Facebook, but this is a really smart way to grab a market share. Most businesses need minimal online presence so FB front is sufficient.

I won't see those businesses, but I know I am a minority, when it comes to this.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by draw_down » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:17 PM UTC

To get started with, or to run a really simple small business, probably not a bad idea. But a real business should think hard about depending on this.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by dzonga » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:18 PM UTC

FB, just came with a bang. with how prevalent fb is internationally. they can capture majority of the market share. sad day, for open solutions like woocommerce. & if FB had managed to get libra, off the ground, then they would be transacting more amounts of currency than anyone in the world. I won't put Shopify in the discussion, as they are only available in select 1st world countries.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by alharith » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:18 PM UTC

foobar_ wrote: post #10

It's interesting how people here are happy to criticise "chyna" when facebook is really the same thing with a corporate logo and a backdoor. The difference is china has a frontdoor. Facebook also runs in your phone with spyware.

Let's just say you are correct, framing and all. So the two options in your scenario are collecting data without consent. The difference then becomes feeding information to a US corporation, which benefits 25,000+ US citizens through direct employment, benefits the countless stock portfolios that hold facebook stock, and benefits the US tech business as a whole, or a brutalist authoritarian regime, hostile to US interests that murders it's own citizens.

Both are wrong and need correction, but I'll take facebook's "spyware" any day.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by executive » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:19 PM UTC

swagonomixxx wrote: post #13

itsspring wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My thoughts exactly. I’ve blocked Facebook in my DNS hosts file & thankfully Firefox has a Facebook fence to isolate their trackers.

Out of curiosity, has doing this disrupted your web browsing experience in any way? I'd like to do this but I'm kind of afraid of alienating 75% of the web that relies on the FB JS SDK for something (I'm not really sure if this is the case, but it might be?) EDIT: thanks for the responses. Will block at DNS :)

no problems blocking FB JS.

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by swagonomixxx » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:19 PM UTC

With the rise of services like Shopify, Etsy, etc. why are independent product manufacturers in the US / Europe still using Amazon? Is it the lack of the supply chain / item delivery that Amazon provides so well or is it something else? Hearing about how Amazon undercuts pretty much every seller on their system makes me think that sellers would be willing to jump in a heartbeat if given a viable alternative.

Facebook Shops seems like a Shopify clone to me ... but I'm not sure as I haven't really used Shopify (and I keep mistaking it for Spotify).

Re: Introducing Facebook Shops

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Post by AnonC » Tue, May 19, 2020, 6:19 PM UTC

> Creating a Facebook Shop is free and simple.

That’s just PR speak. The truth, as it will be realized soon (if not suspected already), is that this will not be free. It will take away the freedom of the businesses and hold them to ransom for Facebook’s own benefit. Neither will it be simple to move out when the realization hits.

It’s a trap, IMNSHO!