"But Musk is said to want to start construction extremely soon and aims to have Model Y vehicles coming out of the plant by the end of the year." That is just delusional.
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#132"But Musk is said to want to start construction extremely soon and aims to have Model Y vehicles coming out of the plant by the end of the year." That is just delusional.
I think the rule with Elon Musk is all his estimates are extremely optimistic and you need to multiply them by two or three to get closer to reality. But I'm sure it serves a purpose in giving his employees an aggressive target to aim at. Even if they miss it, at least they probably got there sooner.
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I'm already looking at the competitors to the Model 3 that are coming out in the next few years. I have loved this car, but Musk is toxic and I don't want to be finding him anymore. I know maybe 5 other people with Teslas, and two others have already said they're looking to switch too. Part of the Tesla story was that it could be a California pride thing. When Musk makes the state his enemy, and acts like an idiot, a…
"Part of the Tesla story was that it could be a California pride thing." Lol. Can humans ever drop the tribalism, I wonder? To be fair, Musk is totally playing the same game. I've held out for a long time, denouncing both sides as stupid. But I'm getting tired of seeing everyone else just say fuck it, grab a beer, a bible, a shotgun, and go full blown alt-right. Or say fuck it, grab a cell phone camera, and go full b…
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#134Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…
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#135Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…
This might come as a shock to you but most people do not care what the political opinions or behavior of a car manufacturer's CEO are. Likewise the internet does not at all reflect the views of your average person, and I would wager that despite Tesla fanatics being very aware of Musk and his eccentric behavior, most Tesla owners moving forward won't even know or care who the CEO is as they rollout to mass market. Th…
Now that other companies are finally catching up (or at least I hope they do), those same customers will have choices. Tesla has really been the only long-range choice, so of course they are going to dominate. They also make a really good car, that makes their customers happy.
Marketing and branding have huge impacts on a lot of car purchases. If Musk narrows his brand appeal by contributing to the US's partisan divide, that has a lot of potential to dent his consumer base. How many of those expensive trucks out there are ever used for truck things? So many car purchases are about image! (Though obviously not all.)
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Being that Alameda County (and neighboring Santa Clara County) have the highest number of COVID cases in the Bay Area[1], I would argue that their response was not overblown and likely had numbers to back why they were being aggressive. [1] https://abc7news.com/bay-area-coronavirus-update-california-...
total in a county with 1.66 million people is noise compared to the usual suspects. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/california/califor...
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Rest of the companies doing that are in more or less the same boat. Tesla ahead of all of them in bringing some pieces of the autonomy to market.
Other companies have made over-optimistic predictions but not on the same scale and with the same frequency. Tesla is ahead of them on the "bringing to market" part but not on the autonomy part, where they're not really working on the same level of difficulty problems as the ones trying for L4.
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No. Unrealistic schedules don't help getting anything done. I hope they have real plans for the real work, while the CEO throws out PR bombs.
"First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth." Seems to have worked
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#139Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…
> Going full alt-right MAGA is going to cut his customer base in half, at least in the US and Europe. Putting my best effort to be charitable here: he could be opening up a whole new market that is opposed to tree-huggers, fuel efficiency and Priuses. Texas loves trucks, the Cybertruck will be henceforth known as the Freedom Cybertruck and the Texas Edition will come with a complementary "Come and take it" sticker. "…
Another aspect though is that right now Tesla is building a new factory in Germany and will start very soon a new factory near Austin. Building these simultaneously will be such a severe drain on Tesla's cash flow that they can ill afford having their California factory shut down for long. In this circumstance Musk could well become hot under the collar especially if he feels Tesla has done enough to mitigate risk to Tesla employees.
Re: Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas
#140Isn't this just Elon Musk getting into one of his superfluous fights, only this time California being the somewhat-random opponent? Musk has been completely unhinged the last few weeks, and it doesn't seem to be wise making such large decisions in anger, especially considering the reason for his anger is, even if justified, unlikely to reoccur. I'm quite the Musk fanboy, but he's always had this very strange anger is…
> Going full alt-right MAGA is going to cut his customer base in half, at least in the US and Europe. Putting my best effort to be charitable here: he could be opening up a whole new market that is opposed to tree-huggers, fuel efficiency and Priuses. Texas loves trucks, the Cybertruck will be henceforth known as the Freedom Cybertruck and the Texas Edition will come with a complementary "Come and take it" sticker. "…