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In case you weren't aware, controlled trials have shown that vitamin d supplementation protects against respiratory disease [1]. This is evidence that the association you highlight is more than a spurious correlation. It's likely to be causal. [1] https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.i6583
If it's true that Vitamin D is such a large factor in reducing the lethality of respiratory disease -- perhaps it's better to loosen lockdown rules to ensure the wider population can get more sun before they inevitably catch the virus. It may explain why heavily indoors NYC had so many lethal cases, even as most infected were already keeping themselves indoors.
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A friend of mine had cancer and they had him taking D3 immediately. also I was out shopping recently and they seemed to sell many varieties of D3, but I didn't see any other D vitamins offered for sale. Is D deficiency really D3 deficiency? or have the other D vitamins sold out?
> A friend of mine had cancer and they had him taking D3 immediately. The last thing in the world a cancer patient needs is well nourished cancer cells, most grow and reproduce quickly.
There are a number of other studies on this. From what little I've read, if the effect is real,it seems the it is relatively weak, but still worth doing.
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#153Here's a link to the paper: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.06.20092999v... This is interesting data. I want to see Vitamin D status included in a large population study like this because I've been following two smaller studies covering about a thousand cases total that shows Vitamin D deficiency has a risk ratio of 10 to 20 (more even than being age 80+ in the above study). The studies: [1] https://p…
> I want to see Vitamin D status included in a large population study like this Although vitamin D is not mentioned in this study, it does show that black people have a hazard ratio of about 2 compared to whites. In the UK black people would be more vitamin D deficient than white people. Now that I think about it, isn't the potential for vitamin D deficiency the reason there are white people in the first place?
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Two takeaways. [2] is pretty scary. As a 30 year old I know that my chance of death is low, but I’d like to avoid a “severe” or “critical” case. There are a large number of unpleasant states between “fine” and “dead” that I’d like to not experience. A 50/50 chance of it being no big deal are worse odds than I’d prefer. [1] is sending me back out onto the patio this weekend for tanning.
Unless you spend literally hours outside every day, it's not likely to be enough. Get some cod liver oil, drink a tablespoon every day. Does wonders.
Re: Factors associated with Covid-19 deaths in records of 17M adult NHS patients
#155Here's a link to the paper: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.06.20092999v... This is interesting data. I want to see Vitamin D status included in a large population study like this because I've been following two smaller studies covering about a thousand cases total that shows Vitamin D deficiency has a risk ratio of 10 to 20 (more even than being age 80+ in the above study). The studies: [1] https://p…
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> The first is causing a run on vitamin D that prevents other people from acquiring if for their proven treatments. Vitamin D is an easily manufactured supplement, it's not medicine that some people absolutely have to take every day. Also, we're heading into summer and the sun is still rising every day. > However the main issue that I think we want to prevent is luring people into a false sense of security that cause…
Hand sanitizer is also easy to manufacture and I haven't seen it in a local store for over 10 weeks. The ease to manufacture is just one of the steps to getting it on the shelves. Also getting vitamin D from the sun isn't an option for some people, especially those with darker skin. The difference between masks and vitamin D is that one is proven to work and one might work. If vitamin D doesn't help as much as people…
Hand washing and social distancing appear to be the most important. That means soap and 6+ feet for at least the next 2 years. That is definitely doable. I don't see masks as a long-term strategy.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
In case you weren't aware, controlled trials have shown that vitamin d supplementation protects against respiratory disease [1]. This is evidence that the association you highlight is more than a spurious correlation. It's likely to be causal. [1] https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.i6583
If it's true that Vitamin D is such a large factor in reducing the lethality of respiratory disease -- perhaps it's better to loosen lockdown rules to ensure the wider population can get more sun before they inevitably catch the virus. It may explain why heavily indoors NYC had so many lethal cases, even as most infected were already keeping themselves indoors.
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#158https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.06.20092999v...
Obesity, of course, is a major factor. It's hard to pull apart Type II Diabetes and breathing disorders from it, too, so a realistic assessment of disorders that would be mitigated if the patient lost weight might show it as the absolute major contributor.
Even Vitamin D deficiency is linked to obesity: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3705328/
Re: Factors associated with Covid-19 deaths in records of 17M adult NHS patients
#159Here's a link to the paper: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.06.20092999v... This is interesting data. I want to see Vitamin D status included in a large population study like this because I've been following two smaller studies covering about a thousand cases total that shows Vitamin D deficiency has a risk ratio of 10 to 20 (more even than being age 80+ in the above study). The studies: [1] https://p…
The critical question remains though- is vitamin D the causal factor, or instead an indicator of something else?
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Unless you spend literally hours outside every day, it's not likely to be enough. Get some cod liver oil, drink a tablespoon every day. Does wonders.
I heard British prof Steve Jones on the radio recently say that 15 minutes in the middle of the day was enough at this time of year.